Re: [I18N Core] Teleconference Minutes 2007-01-09

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Felix

Mark Davis wrote:
> For the "IDN does it work?" document, I'd suggest showing some important
> differences among browsers with regard to IDNs. That is, they have
> different strategies for identifying suspicious URLs, although in both
> cases they use the Punycode to flag such cases.
> 
>    1. IE7 looks at the languages set in the browser, and deduce from
>       that a set of scripts. Any name that contains characters outside
>       of those scripts (or fails in certain other ways) is shown in the
>       raw punycode form. I believe it also blacklists certain domains.
>    2. Firefox assesses the registry policy (in some way), and if they
>       decide it is satisfactory they let it through. Not sure if they
>       also have a blacklist.
> 
> For example:
> 
> User Entry  Firefox  IE7  Comments
> www.þorn.is <http://www.%c3%beorn.is/>  http://www.þorn.is/
> <http://www.%c3%beorn.is/>  þ is Latin
> bäcker.com <http://b%c3%a4cker.com/>  http://xn--bcker-gra.com/
> http://bäcker.com/ <http://xn--bcker-gra.com/>   
> путин.museum <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/>
> http://путин.museum/ <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/>
> http://xn--h1akeme.museum/ <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/>
> (*or путин.museum)
> <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/>   * путин.museum
> <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> IF the browser accept
> languages include Russian.
> I♥NY.museum  http://i♥ny.museum/ <http://i%e2%99%a5ny.museum/>
> http://xn--iny-zx5a.museum/ <http://i%e2%99%a5ny.museum/>   
> pаypal.museum <http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/>  http://pаypal.museum/
> <http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/>  http://xn--pypal-4ve.museum/
> <http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/>  'a' is Cyrillic
> ibm.com⁄foo.museum  http://amazon.xn--comfoo-rq0c.museum/
> <http://amazon.xn--comfoo-rq0c.museum/>  fraction-slash
> 
> 
> (Personally, I think IE7's policies are more useful, but I suspect the
> market will force convergence over time.)
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 1/10/07, * Felix Sasaki* <fsasaki@w3.org <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     ... are at http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html and below
>     as text.
> 
>     Felix
> 
>        [1]W3C
> 
>           [1] http://www.w3.org/
> 
>                             i18n core Working Group
> 
>     9 Jan 2007
> 
>        [2]Agenda
> 
>           [2]
>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0005.html
>     <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0005.html>
> 
>        See also: [3]IRC log
> 
>           [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-irc
> 
>     Attendees
> 
>        Present
>               Felix, Francois, Michael, Richard
> 
>        Regrets
>               Karunesh, Vijay
> 
>        Chair
>               Francois
> 
>        Scribe
>               Felix
> 
>     Contents
> 
>          * [4]Topics
>              1. [5]1) action items
>              2. [6]2) CSS 2.1 review
>              3. [7]3) PLS review
>              4. [8]4) WS-Policy review
>              5. [9]5) XML base transition request
>              6. [10]6) IRI test for XML Schema
>              7. [11]7) Charmod C064 considered unclear
>              8. [12]8) BCP 47 URI
>              9. [13]9) IDNA
>             10. [14]10) New LC drafts (mainly from last calls agenda)
>             11. [15]13) AOB
>          * [16]Summary of Action Items
>          _________________________________________________________
> 
>     1) action items
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: ACTION: Felix to go back to XML Schema people with
>        WG reply on IRI test (DONE) [recorded in
>        [17]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01 ]
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: ACTION: Felix to prepare a text of a blog entry
>        about the IRI / IDN issue in the alverstrand draft and send it
>        Richard (DONE) [recorded in
>        [18]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09- i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Michael to propose an update to the section in the
>        IRI - IDN draft "does it work?" about domain names, see what needs
>        to be sad these days (DONE) [recorded in
>        [19]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]
> 
>        Francois: I did get the mail on the list
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Richard to add the alverstrand draft to the IRI /
>        IDN article (DONE) [recorded in
>        [20]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update (PENDING)
>        [recorded in
>        [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05 ]
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG
>        tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list (PENDING)
>        [recorded in
>        [22]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06 ]
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod
>        norm (PENDING) [recorded in
>        [23]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather
>        information on options for diacrictics in collations (PENDING)
>        [recorded in
>        [24]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Richard to find out what is the canonical URI for
>        BCP47 (DONE) [recorded in
>        [25]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09]
> 
>        Richard: we need to tell PLS to use the RFC editor URI
> 
>     2) CSS 2.1 review
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to the CSS WG saying that we did
>        not come to do the CSS 2.1 review and need an extension until 16
>        Februrary [recorded in
>        [26]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10]
> 
>        Richard: there have been discussions related to the bidi override.
>        Should we say we want that fixed within CSS 2.1?
>        ... there is still more discussion tbd
> 
>        Felix: I send a mail to the WG asking for an extension until 16
>        Februrary
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Richard to send a mail about our Bidi comment on
>        CSS 2.1 [recorded in
>        [27]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11]
> 
>     3) PLS review
> 
>        [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/000
>        3.html
> 
>          [28]
>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0003.html
> 
>        Richard: I agree with everything, except the BCP 47 reference, which
>        I mentioned in the 0003 mail
> 
>        Francois: agree
> 
>        RESOLUTION: WG agrees with the position of Richard on PLS comments
>        in
>        [29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/000
>        3.html
> 
>          [29]
>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0003.html
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Richard to go back to PLS folks [recorded in
>        [30]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12]
> 
>     4) WS-Policy review
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to WS policy and say i18n core is
>        fine with the pocliy drafts [recorded in
>        [31]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action13]
> 
>     5) XML base transition request
> 
>        <fyergeau>
>        [32]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/001
>        4.html
> 
>          [32]
>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0014.html
> 
>        (Francois describes the XML Core position)
> 
>        Richard: XML core plans to use the XLink reference in all XML
>        related specs?
> 
>        Francois: yes
>        ... need to reread Martins mail carefully
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a
>        reply to him [recorded in
>        [33]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action14]
> 
>     6) IRI test for XML Schema
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to xml schema saying we will have
>        IRI xml schema tests as part of the IRI test suite, no need to have
>        them within the xml schema conformance test suite [recorded in
>        [34]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action15]
> 
>     7) Charmod C064 considered unclear
> 
>        <scribe> postponed
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: all to look at the C064 issue, see
>        [35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/002
>        8.html [recorded in
>        [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action16]
> 
>          [35]
>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html
>     <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html>
> 
>     8) BCP 47 URI
> 
>        <scribe> done already
> 
>     9) IDNA
> 
>        various people subscribed, but have not followed the discussion in
>        detail
> 
>        Michael: would be good to read the mails
>        ... looked at some before the holidays
>        ... there was no agreement on topics like script mixing
> 
>     10) New LC drafts (mainly from last calls agenda)
> 
>        <scribe> ACTION: Felix to describe potential data binding review
>        [recorded in
>        [37]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action17]
> 
>     13) AOB
> 
>        Francois: no call next week (Richard and Felix on travel), call in
>        two weeks (Regrets from Richard)
> 
>     Summary of Action Items
> 
>        [NEW] ACTION: all to look at the C064 issue, see
>        [38]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/002
>        8.html [recorded in
>        [39]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09- i18ncore-minutes.html#action16]
>        [NEW] ACTION: Felix to describe potential data binding review
>        [recorded in
>        [40]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action17]
>        [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to the CSS WG saying that we did not
>        come to do the CSS 2.1 review and need an extension until 16
>        Februrary [recorded in
>        [41]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10]
>        [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to WS policy and say i18n core is
>        fine with the pocliy drafts [recorded in
>        [42]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action13]
>        [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to xml schema saying we will have IRI
>        xml schema tests as part of the IRI test suite, no need to have them
>        within the xml schema conformance test suite [recorded in
>        [43]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action15]
>        [NEW] ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a reply
>        to him [recorded in
>        [44]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action14]
>        [NEW] ACTION: Richard to go back to PLS folks [recorded in
>        [45]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12]
>        [NEW] ACTION: Richard to send a mail about our Bidi comment on CSS
>        2.1 [recorded in
>        [46]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11]
> 
>          [38]
>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html
>     <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html>
> 
>        [PENDING] ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update [recorded in
>        [47]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05]
>        [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG
>        tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list [recorded
>        in [48]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06]
>        [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod
>        norm [recorded in
>        [49]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07]
>        [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather
>        information on options for diacrictics in collations [recorded in
>        [50]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08]
>        [DONE] ACTION: Richard to find out what is the canonical URI for
>        BCP47 [recorded in
>        [51]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09 ]
>        [DONE] ACTION: Felix to go back to XML Schema people with WG reply
>        on IRI test [recorded in
>        [52]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01]
> 
>        [DONE] ACTION: Felix to prepare a text of a blog entry about the IRI
>        / IDN issue in the alverstrand draft and send it Richard [recorded
>        in [53]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02]
>        [DONE] ACTION: Michael to propose an update to the section in the
>        IRI - IDN draft "does it work?" about domain names, see what needs
>        to be sad these days [recorded in
>        [54]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03]
>        [DONE] ACTION: Richard to add the alverstrand draft to the IRI / IDN
>        article [recorded in
>        [55]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04]
> 
>        [End of minutes]
>          _________________________________________________________
> 
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> Mark

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