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RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning

From: Ashok Malhotra <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 17:07:31 -0700
To: Addison Phillips <addison.phillips@quest.com>, Jim Melton <jim.melton@acm.org>
CC: Paul Cotton <pcotton@microsoft.com>, w3c-xsl-query@w3.org, public-i18n-core@w3.org
Message-ID: <20050902170732293.00000003744@amalhotr-pc>

I made a bunch of changes.  Please take a look.

All the best, Ashok
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Addison Phillips
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 2:49 PM
> To: ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; Jim Melton
> Cc: Paul Cotton; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org; public-i18n-core@w3.org
> Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
> 
> 
> Thanks Ashok.
> 
> Instead of sending us a mail with proposed changes, would you 
> consider putting them into the document directly? If you've 
> not used the Wiki previously, note that you can't really hurt 
> the document and this way we can track who did what. Most of 
> us get notified when the page is changed.
> 
> Wiki instructions here: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HelpOnFormatting
> 
> Addison
> 
> Addison P. Phillips
> Globalization Architect, Quest Software
> Chair, W3C Internationalization Core Working Group
> 
> Internationalization is not a feature.
> It is an architecture. 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ashok Malhotra [mailto:ashok.malhotra@oracle.com]
> > Sent: 2005?9?1? 14:43
> > To: Addison Phillips; Jim Melton
> > Cc: Paul Cotton; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org; public-i18n-core@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
> > 
> > I think a W3C note (now called member submission?) is the 
> right way to 
> > surface this material.  I will suggest a few changes in wording and 
> > more specific description of what XML Schema and XML Query 
> provide.  
> > Watch your mail!
> > 
> > All the best, Ashok
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org
> > > [mailto:w3c-xsl-query-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of 
> Addison Phillips
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:12 AM
> > > To: Jim Melton
> > > Cc: Paul Cotton; ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; w3c-xsl-query@w3.org; 
> > > public-i18n-core@w3.org
> > > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, Jim. If you happen to think of better terms, we would be 
> > > *very* happy to have suggestions. Note that the document 
> is in the 
> > > Wiki and can be modified.
> > >
> > > I think that Note would be an appropriate format for this 
> > > information. Perhaps work on time zones would be 
> appropriate in some 
> > > other formats (like a REC) in the future, but this isn't it.
> > >
> > > A non-normative reference to it would be fine. Perhaps, 
> if I may be 
> > > so bold:
> > >
> > > --
> > > Note Well: Users and implementers handling time-related 
> data should 
> > > take the considerations in [[href:Note]] into account 
> even if time 
> > > zone sensitive data is rarely used. Sooner or later some 
> data will 
> > > be affected by the issues described in that document.
> > > --
> > >
> > > The I18N Core WG will work to publish this ASAP, once we 
> are all in 
> > > agreement on the course of action.
> > >
> > > Addison
> > >
> > > Addison P. Phillips
> > > Globalization Architect, Quest Software Chair, W3C 
> > > Internationalization Core Working Group
> > >
> > > Internationalization is not a feature.
> > > It is an architecture.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jim Melton [mailto:jim.melton@acm.org]
> > > > Sent: 2005?9?1? 10:03
> > > > To: Addison Phillips
> > > > Cc: Paul Cotton; ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; 
> w3c-xsl-query@w3.org;
> > > > public- i18n-core@w3.org
> > > > Subject: RE: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
> > > >
> > > > Addison,
> > > >
> > > > I am very pleased with your draft text.  It is one of the
> > > better, more
> > > > concise, and clearer discussions of this rather annoying
> > > problem that
> > > > I've encountered.  I am not particularly delighted with 
> the three 
> > > > names you've chosen, but I don't currently have a better
> > > alternative to offer.
> > > >
> > > > You say that you wish to publish the document as a Note 
> and that 
> > > > we would then reference it in our document[s].  I 
> assume that our 
> > > > reference would be non-normative, because the text of a Note is 
> > > > not itself normative in any sense.  Right?  If my assumption is
> > > correct,
> > > > then I would have no objections to following your suggested
> > > action.
> > > > Among the advantages is the fact that a Note can be
> > > published pretty
> > > > quickly so that it is available no later than our documents
> > > going to
> > > > CR status, right?
> > > >
> > > > If I find little quibbles that I'd like changed, what 
> is the best 
> > > > process for making that happen?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >     Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 9/1/2005 09:48 AM, Addison Phillips wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Hi Paul,
> > > > >
> > > > >I had an action item to follow up this week with Ashok. I
> > > believe we
> > > > >are done with our editing homework. The question is 
> what form the 
> > > > >health warning should take in your document. Our text is
> > > slightly long.
> > > > >
> > > > >We want to suggest that we publish our document as a Note and 
> > > > >that you include a reference to it in your document.
> > > > >
> > > > >The document itself is currently located in the Wiki:
> > > > >
> > > > >http://esw.w3.org/topic/i18nFAQTimeZone#preview
> > > > >
> > > > >Please let us know if you have particular concerns with
> > > the content
> > > > >or if you prefer a different course of action for
> > > including material
> > > > >from it in yours.
> > > > >
> > > > >Addison
> > > > >
> > > > >Addison P. Phillips
> > > > >Globalization Architect, Quest Software Chair, W3C 
> > > > >Internationalization Core Working Group
> > > > >
> > > > >Internationalization is not a feature.
> > > > >It is an architecture.
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Paul Cotton [mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com]
> > > > > > Sent: 2005?8?31? 20:55
> > > > > > To: ashok.malhotra@oracle.com; Addison Phillips
> > > > > > Cc: w3c-xsl-query@w3.org
> > > > > > Subject: ACTION A-Redmond05-01: timezone health warning
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ACTION A-Redmond05-01 Ashok will work with Addison to 
> > > > > > > develop text for the timezone health warning.  
> ETA end of August.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the text for the health warning ready?  If it is can
> > > one of you
> > > > > > please reply to this message with the proposed text or
> > > a pointer to it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /paulc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> > > > > > 17 Eleanor Drive, Nepean, Ontario K2E 6A3
> > > > > > Tel: (613) 225-5445 Fax: (425) 936-7329 
> > > > > > mailto:pcotton@microsoft.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ==============================================================
> > > ==========
> > > > Jim Melton --- Editor of ISO/IEC 9075-* (SQL)     Phone:
> > > +1.801.942.0144
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