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Re: A successor to framesets

From: Sean Hogan <shogun70@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 07:54:09 +1100
Message-ID: <CAHQTpmA-955pP3Wbigi55m=Op4hCYgj4i+AbwZ73tRFuQfaFQQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Eihab Ibrahim <eihabibrahim@gmail.com>
Cc: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
Hi Eihab,

Thanks for the feedback. I'm not sure what you mean by "sub-titles
on", but the video is really the best way to demonstrate the failure
modes of JS framework based sites.

If I provide a list of the demos - with start times and a detailed
description of what they demonstrate - would that be constructive?

regards,
Sean


On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Eihab Ibrahim <eihabibrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> Have you tried watching the video with Subtitles turned on?
>
> I apologize for the confusion on my part, but I assure you it was not an
> impulsive response to a subject line. I sincerely thought that the YouTube
> submission was a prank.
>
> Please resubmit your proposal in a more accessible format and I'll be more
> than happy to review it and give feedback if I can.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Eihab
>
>
> On 4/1/2015 10:44 PM, Sean Hogan wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eihab,
>>
>> Are you saying that if I had posted this on, say, the 2nd April then
>> you would have given it proper consideration instead of just
>> responding to the Subject: line?
>>
>> regards,
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Eihab Ibrahim <eihabibrahim@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sean,
>>>
>>> It's a bit too early in the US for April fools' jokes, and I do not think
>>> this is an appropriate platform for it.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Eihab
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Sean Hogan <shogun70@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> HTML framesets were the original single-page-application.
>>>
>>> Despite the flaws (mostly not being content-first), at least servers
>>> were emitting reasonably simple HTML including real hyperlinks and
>>> forms.
>>>
>>> What would framesets be like if we designed them today?
>>>
>>> In the linked video I make the case for a successor to framesets.
>>> It is 25 minutes but that is unavoidable.
>>>
>>>     https://youtu.be/qVdAc8_ppao
>>>
>>> The first half illustrates *why* this is important / better than
>>> alternatives,
>>> with actual demonstrations (which you should try for yourself to
>>> ensure I'm not cheating).
>>>
>>> The second half provides some insight into how I've approached this,
>>> again with demonstrations.
>>>
>>> I'll continue later with details of the differences / enhancements
>>> required to make the frameset concept live up to today's expectations.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>> .
>>
>
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