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Re: proposal: modify the figure element

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:52:28 +0100
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To: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
Sorry forgot to add references to the relevant commits:

W3C HTML figure change commit:
https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/36180004fc37cb9e401883e27d79d1f9ded1f0e6

WHATWG figure change commit:
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=7990&to=7991

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Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>


On 20 June 2013 09:48, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> hixie has changed the descriptive text [1] for the figure element in the
> whatwg spec, to clarify its usage: Changes to the W3C HTML spec to clarify
> usage were made a few months ago[2]
>
> hixies proposed text:
>
>> The figure element represents some flow content, optionally with a
>> caption, that is self-contained (like a complete sentence) and is typically
>> referenced as a single unit from the main flow of the document.
>>
> Self-contained in this context does not necessarily mean independent. For
>> example, each sentence in a paragraph is self-contained; an image that is
>> part of a sentence would be inappropriate for figure, but an entire
>> sentence made of images would be fitting.
>>
>> The element can thus be used to annotate illustrations, diagrams, photos,
>> code listings, etc.
>>
> When a figure is referred to from the main content of the document by
> identifying it by its caption (e.g. by figure number), it enables such
> content to be easily moved away from that primary content, e.g. to the side
> of the page, to dedicated pages, or to an appendix, without affecting the
> flow of the document.
>
> If a figure element is referenced by its relative position, e.g. "in the
> photograph above" or "as the next figure shows", then moving the figure
> would disrupt the page's meaning. Authors are encouraged to consider using
> labels to refer to figures, rather than using such relative references, so
> that the page can easily be restyled without affecting the page's meaning.
>
>
> HTML5 /5.1 current text:
>
> The figure element represents some flow content, optionally with a
>> caption, that is self-contained and may be referenced as a single unit from
>> the main flow of the document.
>>
>> The element can be used to annotate illustrations, diagrams, photos, code
>> listings, etc. This includes, but is not restricted to, content referred to
>> from the main part of the document that could, without affecting the flow
>> of the document, be moved away from that primary content, e.g. to the side
>> of the page, to dedicated pages, or to an appendix.
>>
>> The figure element can be used to caption an image, for example, when the
>> image is a main part of the content. This could be the case, for instance,
>> on a page that is part of a photo gallery where the image is the whole
>> point of the page containing it.
>>
>
> Does hixie's proposed text improve the understanding of how to use figure
> for authors over what is currently in the HTML spec? if so how?
>
> [1] http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#the-figure-element
> [2]
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/grouping-content.html#the-figure-element
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>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
>
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