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Re: added note warning about use of placeholder as a label

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:29:30 -0800
Message-ID: <CA+ri+Vk+VS2+3EqBHuqwA2WnQ_-evzMOZksL9e1e08e4Cnth7Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: Mallory van Achterberg <stommepoes@stommepoes.nl>
Cc: Jay Munro <jaymunro@microsoft.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hi Mallory,

With my G-nazi hat on:
> Grammatically, the semi-colon after "shown at all times" should be
> a comma. Pre-filled is usually one word when used as an adjective.
>

fixed thanks!

https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/07691961a502d292f24bb573e024c1200770867c

On 27 February 2013 06:16, Mallory van Achterberg
<stommepoes@stommepoes.nl>wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:03:51AM -0800, Steve Faulkner wrote:
> > Hi Jay, Mallory
> >
> > I have updated the note after reviewing your feedback
> >
> > now reads [1]:
> >
> > Use of the placeholder attribute as a replacement for a label can reduce
> > > the accessibility and usability of the control for a range of users
> > > including older users and users with cognitive, mobility, fine motor
> skill
> > > or vision impairments. While the hint given by the control's label is
> > > shown at all times; the short hint given in the placeholder attribute
> is
> > > only shown before the user enters a value. Furthermore, placeholder
> text
> > > may be mistaken for a pre filled value, and as commonly implemented the
> > > default color of the placeholder text provides insufficient contrast
> and
> > > the lack of a separate visible label reduces the size of the hit region
> > > available for setting focus on the control.
> > >
> >
> > further feedback welcome!
> >
> > [1]
> >
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/forms.html#the-placeholder-attribute
> >
> > regards
> > SteveF
>
> With my G-nazi hat on:
> Grammatically, the semi-colon after "shown at all times" should be
> a comma. Pre-filled is usually one word when used as an adjective.
>
> cheers,
> Mallory
>
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