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RE: added note warning about use of placeholder as a label

From: Jay Munro <jaymunro@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:27:04 +0000
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, Mallory van Achterberg <stommepoes@stommepoes.nl>
CC: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <5cdc9034e0c4459fa4887237dfd1f092@SN2PR03MB045.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
Looks good Steve.

Let's hope folks heed the note.

From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:30 AM
To: Mallory van Achterberg
Cc: Jay Munro; HTMLWG WG; HTML Accessibility Task Force
Subject: Re: added note warning about use of placeholder as a label

Hi Mallory,
With my G-nazi hat on:
Grammatically, the semi-colon after "shown at all times" should be
a comma. Pre-filled is usually one word when used as an adjective.

fixed thanks!

https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/07691961a502d292f24bb573e024c1200770867c
On 27 February 2013 06:16, Mallory van Achterberg <stommepoes@stommepoes.nl<mailto:stommepoes@stommepoes.nl>> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:03:51AM -0800, Steve Faulkner wrote:
> Hi Jay, Mallory
>
> I have updated the note after reviewing your feedback
>
> now reads [1]:
>
> Use of the placeholder attribute as a replacement for a label can reduce
> > the accessibility and usability of the control for a range of users
> > including older users and users with cognitive, mobility, fine motor skill
> > or vision impairments. While the hint given by the control's label is
> > shown at all times; the short hint given in the placeholder attribute is
> > only shown before the user enters a value. Furthermore, placeholder text
> > may be mistaken for a pre filled value, and as commonly implemented the
> > default color of the placeholder text provides insufficient contrast and
> > the lack of a separate visible label reduces the size of the hit region
> > available for setting focus on the control.
> >
>
> further feedback welcome!
>
> [1]
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/forms.html#the-placeholder-attribute
>
> regards
> SteveF
With my G-nazi hat on:
Grammatically, the semi-colon after "shown at all times" should be
a comma. Pre-filled is usually one word when used as an adjective.

cheers,
Mallory
Received on Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:28:17 GMT

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