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Re: using the data* attribute to identify element sub roles

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 08:31:34 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+ri+VnFOQJ16HHqCO_6OJvs+7euwUNr6fOOPpxNJPkgtwZB7A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Cc: Anselm Hannemann <info@anselm-hannemann.com>, public-html@w3.org
Hi Silvia,

I realise what the current definition of data-* is I am exploring
possibilities of how to resolve the use case I described in my previous
email.

i.e. how to identify sub roles in HTML

data-* may well not be the appropriate method as i said "wild idea"


regards
SteveF

On 18 February 2013 08:26, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>wrote:

> @data-xxx attributes are for authors only. We don't do anything in
> browsers with them and therefore will not standardise any @data-xxx
> attributes in the HTML spec (see the Extensibility section):
>
> "Authors can include data for inline client-side scripts or server-side
> site-wide scripts to process using the data-*=""<http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/single-page.html#attr-data-*>
>  attributes. These are guaranteed to never be touched by browsers, and
> allow scripts to include data on HTML elements that scripts can then look
> for and process."
>
> It's the safe way for Web developers to use custom attributes so, when you
> implement a WebSite you're free to do whatever you want with them.
>
> Cheers,
> Silvia.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Ansel,
>>
>> use cases, yes.
>>
>> the use cases I had in mind is that currently the definitions of some
>> elements have differing uses:
>>
>> article can idenity a 1000 word essay, a 100 word summary of said essay
>> and a 5 word comment on the same essay, but there is no method defined to
>> idenitfy the different uses. If there was a defined method, a range of
>> software could make use of it such as search engines and assistive
>> technology.
>>
>>
>> regards
>> Stevef
>>
>>
>> On 18 February 2013 07:59, Anselm Hannemann <info@anselm-hannemann.com>wrote:
>>
>>> From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 07:26:52 +0000
>>> Message-ID: <
>>> CA+ri+Vn+zcfZT5BP2w3x4WNwu2o2h9GvyPff0znDPVzqaxJYvg@mail.gmail.com>
>>> To: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
>>> NOTE: this is just a wild idea.
>>>
>>> allow the data attribute [1] to be used to identify element sub roles:
>>>
>>> examples:
>>>
>>> <h1>heading</h1> <p data-p="subheading">subheading</p>
>>>
>>> <article data-article="comment"> blog post comment </article>
>>>
>>> allow data-elementname="subRole" pairs to be added to a public registry.
>>>
>>> thoughts?
>>>
>>> I don't understand the logic of the data-attribute yet. Shouldn't there
>>> be a reference to which the attribute refers?
>>> In that case to the h1-element. That means, for me it would be logical
>>> to have:
>>>
>>> <h1>heading</h1> <p data-h1="subheading">subheading</p>
>>>
>>> But then the semantics is away for the element attribute itself.
>>> I think I have a lack on use-cases here to can think of if this
>>> could work and is useful.
>>>
>>> / Anselm
>>> -----------
>>> Anselm Hannemann
>>> @helloanselm
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/dom.html#embedding-custom-non-visible-data-with-the-data-*-attributes
>>>
>>> -- with regards
>>>
>>> Steve Faulkner
>>>
>>>
>>
>> <http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html>
>>
>
>


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