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Re: Proposal for the deprecation of <blockquote>

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:03:02 +0100
Message-ID: <CA+ri+VkFSoE1TiFZWcy4i8HPafG1-eBRcQkpQZ8R7vW7CEcP2Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Jukka K. Korpela" <jukka.k.korpela@kolumbus.fi>
Cc: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
by default both JAWS and NVDA say 'blockquote'

for footer jaws says 'content information', nvda says 'content info
landmark'


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Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>


On 19 August 2013 15:51, Jukka K. Korpela <jukka.k.korpela@kolumbus.fi>wrote:

> 2013-08-19 13:58, Steve Faulkner wrote:
>
>> AT such as JAWS Announces when the virtual cursor enters or exits a
>> |blockquote| element. Navigate by and list instances of |blockquote|
>> element in document.
>>
>
> That's interesting. What exactly does JAWS say? What do other AT programs
> say? Do they say that by default, or does the user need to switch to a
> specific mode or set some settings?
>
> If it says something related to "block quotation", then it misleads users
> most of the time, but presumably people who hear that often enough will
> have tuned their understanding to know that "block quotation" does not mean
> a quotation, in most cases.
>
>
>
>> And JAWS also recognises and announces <footer>
>>
>
> I guess that would normally be OK and useful in most cases.
>
>
>  so for the example code:
>>
>> <blockquote>
>>   <p>The blockquote element represents a section that is quoted from
>> another source.</p>
>>     <footer> <cite><a href="http://dev.w3.org/html5/**
>> spec/grouping-content.html#**the-blockquote-element<http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/grouping-content.html#the-blockquote-element>">W3C
>> HTML5 specification</a></cite></**footer>
>> </blockquote>
>>
>> The use of the footer element is an improvement to user experience as it
>> identifies the citation as content information.
>>
>>  It depends on whether the user understands "footer" (or whatever JAWS is
> saying) as meaning "credits" or "source".
>
> In practice, writing e.g. <p>Source: ...</p> instead of <footer> would
> make things much clearer.
>
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>
>
>
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