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Re: CP, ISSUE-30: Link longdesc to role of img [Was: hypothetical question on longdesc]

From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:11:37 +1100
Message-ID: <CAHp8n2n-bd=3mxDdqaec=VKwF2BFg0MVXxB5jg6HaaKtcQH4OA@mail.gmail.com>
To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Cc: singer@apple.com, janina@rednote.net, xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no, rubys@intertwingly.net, laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com, mjs@apple.com, paul.cotton@microsoft.com, public-html-a11y@w3.org, public-html@w3.org
Use cases are appreciated, but they don't always require another new
element or attribute.
The image IS a label for the video, so @aria-label is just another
representation of the same thing. How complicated does it have to be?
Silvia.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:04 AM, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote:
> With all due respect David, that is not what a number of blind users have
> told me: they want to know both, and they also recognize that the image,
> while related to the video, may very well require its own textual
> description.
>
> I am somewhat frustrated when sighted engineers keep asserting what
> non-sighted users need and want: have you bothered to ask *them*?
>
> JF
>
> Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> Subject: Re: CP, ISSUE-30: Link longdesc to role of img [Was: hypothetical
> question on longdesc]
> From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
> To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
> CC:
> silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com,janina@rednote.net,xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no,rubys@intertwingly.net,laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com,mjs@apple.com,paul.cotton@microsoft.com,public-html-a11y@w3.org,public-html@w3.org
>
>
>
> On Mar 20, 2012, at 16:21 , John Foliot wrote:
>
>> Silvia,
>>
>> Point of clarrification (that has been made in the past) - attributes
>> cannot take attributes, so there is no programmatic way to link @aria-label
>> to @poster.
>
> Happily, they don't need them.  If the poster conveys information
> *additional to* the video, then that information should included at the
> beginning of the information that describes the video.  The poster is not an
> independent entity.
>
> If the front door of the restaurant actually includes information about the
> restaurant, include a description of it in the description of the
> restaurant.  But don't describe the front door and leave the rest to be
> guessed at.
>
>
> David Singer
> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>
>
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