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Re: CP, ISSUE-30: Link longdesc to role of img [Was: hypothetical question on longdesc]

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:20:06 -0400
To: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Cc: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, public-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <20120320222006.GG5399@sonata.rednote.net>
David Singer writes:
> 
> On Mar 20, 2012, at 14:46 , Janina Sajka wrote:
> > So, are you so certain we're wrong that you would keep that debate going
> > just on principle? Why not just get the markup specified so that we can
> > move on together to the more interesting list of a11y support features?
> 
> 
> I am frustrated at the priorities.  We have spent thousands of hours on longdesc, and probably tens on longdesc for video, and essentially none on a whole host of much more real problems than longdesc-for-poster.  If we solve longdesc-for-poster and fail to do anything for video description, video transcript, etc., then the hypothetical user in my example will be able to get what I showed: a beautiful, detailed description of one visually representative or suggestive frame, but still no possibility of learning what the video would have taught them if they had been able to view it.  That's simply wrong. That user has been let down by our lack of focus.  
> 

Your frustration is widely shared, though not your prioritization.

> We're putting up an umbrella on a ship that has a hole in its bottom.  Yes, it keeps a little of the rain off.  But...
> 

Not at all. We're insisting on accessible ingress as well as accessible
internal architecture. What use is an accessible restaurant if you can't
get inside? What use is a page of videos if you have to open each one to
decide whether you wanted to view it in the first place?

Janina

> 
> David Singer
> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.

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