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Re: Encrypted Media proposal: Summary of the discussion so far

From: Charles Pritchard <chuck@jumis.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:58:22 -0700
Message-Id: <722B8647-B07A-4D84-83B2-2FCD22C1A2F2@jumis.com>
Cc: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>, David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com>, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, "<public-html@w3.org>" <public-html@w3.org>
To: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
Full screen wasn't possible from outside the Flash UI.

Progress bars are often substandard outside the flash UI in responsiveness and expressivity.

These issues have been somewhat addressed by modern webapps UI over the past year.





On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Steve Faulkner
> <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Are the flash based media players generally used accompanied by scripted
>> HTML controls or are they in the flash file?
>> 
>> looking at random youtube video controls are in the flash
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1PFq2LuyTs&feature=b-mv
>>  same goes for metacafe and daily motion
>> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/8202183/god_bless_america_exclusive_clip_silence_is_golden/
>> 
>> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpafej_alain-robert-best-of-2011_sport
> 
> Probably most video sites today are using Flash to deliver the video
> itself are also using Flash to deliver some of their UI.
> 
> I think you'll find that reflects their general deprioritisation of
> accessibility in product design and QA, lack of dedicated content
> aimed at people with disabilities (e.g. captions, audio descriptions,
> sign language interpretation), the Flash-focused skillset of the
> developers, and a desire to force ads on users by obfuscating the
> loading of the ads and video in Flash, not technical problems with
> using DHTML to drive Flash.
> 
> e.g. http://icant.co.uk/easy-youtube/
> 
> But if you can point to specific technical problems, please do.
> 
>>> switching to HTML5 <video> would require switching to DHTML controls
>> 
>> If this is the case then it is a positive effect of removing the flash
>> dependency.
> 
> My point is we can gain this benefit without removing the Flash dependency.
> 
> --
> Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Received on Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:58:47 GMT

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