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Re: ISSUE-205 opened

From: Charles Pritchard <chuck@jumis.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:16:41 -0800
Message-ID: <4F3A5EB9.60800@jumis.com>
To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
CC: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>, Frank Olivier <Frank.Olivier@microsoft.com>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Thank you chairs, for the quick action on this.

Would / should the wiki links be added to the issue tracker?
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/CaretSelectionRevised
http://www.w3.org/wiki/No_edit_change_proposal_for_canvas_text_editing


What's the standard method for editing a CP via wiki? Is it up for 
anyone to edit?
I added some "Negative Effects" to the No_edit proposal. The rest of my 
commentary went into the talk page.

-Charles


On 2/14/2012 5:05 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> The chairs have agreed to split this issue as requested, and have 
> opened Issue 205:
>
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/205
>
> Separate calls for Alternate Counter Proposals will be issued on both 
> 131 and 205 shortly.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
> On 02/11/2012 05:06 PM, Frank Olivier wrote:
>> To clarify:
>>
>> We should split this issue into the following two issues:
>>
>> [a] Reading (static) text from a canvas element / defining how 
>> authors indicate where (static) text is on a canvas element
>> Define what author guidance and methods should be used to enable 
>> users to find and read static text that has been rendered onto a 
>> canvas. This might include enabling caret browsing and text selection.
>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline
>> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Reading_text_in_canvas
>>
>> [b] Text editing in canvas
>> Define what author guidance and methods should be used to create 
>> accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface.
>> - or -
>> Keep existing spec text that advised authors to not implement text 
>> editors using canvas as a rendering surface
>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/CaretSelectionRevised
>> http://www.w3.org/wiki/No_edit_change_proposal_for_canvas_text_editing
>>
>>
>> I've added the recent Change Proposals to the two individual issues.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Frank Olivier [mailto:Frank.Olivier@microsoft.com]
>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 2:44 PM
>> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger; Paul Cotton; Sam Ruby 
>> (rubys@intertwingly.net)
>> Cc: public-html@w3.org; public-html-a11y@w3.org
>> Subject: RE: Issue 131 Change Proposal
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback, Rich.
>>
>> I think that there are two issues in 131 (text editing in canvas, and 
>> reading static text rendered into a canvas element); I have filed 
>> change proposals for both.
>>
>> I think that, for the issue of reading text from a canvas, we should 
>> be able to achieve consensus, as you note below.
>> For text editing, consensus seems less likely.
>>
>> I propose that we split 131 into separate issues.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Schwerdtfeger [mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com]
>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 1:41 PM
>> To: Frank Olivier
>> Cc: public-html@w3.org; public-html-a11y@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: Issue 131 Change Proposal
>>
>> Hi Frank,
>>
>> Thanks for submitting another solution Frank.
>>
>> I believe this would work provided we add some work under way related 
>> to ARIA 1.1.  I am not sure everyone uses the subdom text cursor 
>> position.
>> Another issue is that Macs, currently don't support caret browsing. 
>> If you would like me to discuss the work under way I would be happy 
>> to do that. In short, I believe this would work but we would need to 
>> do the other things.
>>
>> Note: to the chairs: This is not an alternative to the text baseline. 
>> That is another aspect for Issue 131 which would apply to either 
>> proposal for caret/selection tracking.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>>
>> Rich Schwerdtfeger
>>
>>
>>
>> From:    Frank Olivier<Frank.Olivier@microsoft.com>
>> To:    "public-html@w3.org"<public-html@w3.org>,
>> Cc:    "public-html-a11y@w3.org"<public-html-a11y@w3.org>
>> Date:    02/10/2012 03:12 PM
>> Subject:    Issue 131 Change Proposal
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to submit http://www.w3.org/wiki/Reading_text_in_canvas 
>> as a change proposal for this issue.
>>
>> This proposal defines author guidance that outlines a solution to the 
>> problem of reading text in canvas elements, improving accessibility.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Frank
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