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Re: hgroup

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 07:48:21 -0400
Message-ID: <4DC13D05.3020902@intertwingly.net>
To: public-html@w3.org
On 05/04/2011 05:00 AM, Steve Faulkner wrote:
> Hi Jirka,
>
> the html list is not the place to comment on the editing theatre we have
> all been an audience to, but I will say that the decision about hgroup
> is a last call issue [1] and will be dealt with by the HTML working
> group during last call, at that time if it is decided by the working
> group that hgroup should be removed or modified then the appropriate
> changes will be made to the W3C HTML5 specification.
>
> [1] ISSUE-164: remove or modify hgroup
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164

Correct.

If the co-chairs decide to request a revert, it will not affect that 
issue, and we will not consider a request to revert the revert.

The following is the timeline towards last call that we are operating 
towards:

   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0074.html

Specifically,

> Oct 1, 2010 - cutoff for bugs to be considered as pre-LC feedbac

The bugs that were entered on hgroup were created well after that cutoff:

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11737
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11828
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11731

This is being tracked as an issue:

http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-164

The next step is that the co-chairs will issue a call for Change Proposals:

http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html#change-proposals.

The effect of such a call will be to set a deadline for such proposals. 
  The consequence of missing that deadline is that the issue will 
deferred to the next version of HTML:

http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html#escalation-step-2a

Meanwhile, there is nothing stopping anyone from working on a Change 
Proposal now.

> regards
> stevef

- Sam Ruby

> On 4 May 2011 09:52, Jirka Kosek <jirka@kosek.cz
> <mailto:jirka@kosek.cz>> wrote:
>
>     Steve Faulkner wrote:
>
>      > yes, and as 2 working group members have requested a revert of
>     the change
>      > the editor decided to make
>      > I expect to see it back in HTML5 soonish.
>
>     And if I will chase another 2 WG members to request revert of this
>     revert will hgroup be removed soonish after soonish reintroduction?
>
>     Holy crap, I though that I'm member of working group and not a member of
>     absurd comedy company here.
>
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