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Re: ISSUE-31 and ISSUE-80 - Straw Poll A for Objections

From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:32:27 -0700
Cc: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
Message-id: <7D9045C0-B452-43D3-956E-677CB465A043@apple.com>
To: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>

Hi Leif,

On Mar 30, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:

> Paul Cotton, Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:03:54 +0000:
>> ISSUE-31 and ISSUE-80 - Straw Poll A for Objections
> 
>> Instead we are asking WG members to indicate their 
>> position on whether the following: Aria-labelledby, Role attribute 
>> with a value of "presentation", Generator mechanism, Email exception, 
>> Title and Figcaption, should be permitted or not permitted when the 
>> image element is missing the alt attribute.
> 
> This must be the most confusing poll ever. And the presentation of the 
> options is questionable:
> 
> None of the options unpermit @title in any case. (It would be logical 
> if they did for the role=presentation case, but none of them discuss 
> this, it seems.) But despite that fact, you make it seem - in this 
> letter and in the poll - as if in particular Req Set 5/6 unpermits 
> @title unless there is a non-empty @alt. 
> 
> It is the opposite way: in Req Set 5/6, then @title triggers a need for 
> a non-empty @alt. What the poll is really about is which - if any - 
> conditions that take away the need for an @alt attribute. As the 
> summary page states:

You are correct that the question wording is off. I updated the poll wording. This is now the wording for the title attribute:

>>> We have a set of Change Proposals identified in the summary description that allow and disallow various exceptions to the general requirement to specify an alt attribute on all img elements. If you have strong objections to permitting or not permitting a missing alt attribute in when the title attribute is specified, then please state your objections below.
>>> 
>>> Title attributed is allowed as an exception by: Requirement Set 1.
>>> 
>>> Keep in mind, you must actually state an objection, not merely cite someone else. If you feel that your objection has already been adequately addressed by someone else, then it is not necessary to repeat it.

Does this address your concerns?

Note: the chairs are hesitant to reorganize the poll questions completely, unless there are WG members who truly feel they cannot sensibly respond to the current poll.

Regards,
Maciej
Received on Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:33:03 UTC

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