- From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:09:28 -0400
- To: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
The decision follows. The chairs made an effort to explicitly address all arguments presented in the Change Proposals on this topic in addition to arguments posted as objections in the poll. *** Question before the Working Group *** There is a basic disagreement in the group as to whether the acknowledgement to the microdata usability study should be placed in the HTML5 or the Microdata specifications. The result was an issue, two change proposals, and a straw poll for objections: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/139 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jan/0144.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jan/0162.html http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-139-objection-poll/results == Uncontested observations: * The microdata spec would still have to refer to the HTML spec in the W3C space for the complete acks This alone was not decisive. There were people who supported either of these proposals even after taking these facts into consideration. The fact that they were acknowledged up front was appreciated. === Objections In terms of objections, we have confusion over whether Microdata is part of the HTML5 language, an objection to excluding Microdata from HTML5, and the amount of work required to move one sentence. An important piece of context here is the decision for issue-76: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/att-0218/issue-76-decision.html ...which concludes with "the objections to picking a winner in this case are stronger than the objections to not doing so." The inclusion of an acknowledgement which is so obviously associated with a separate specification for Microdata while not having equivalent acknowledgements for RDFa has the effect of giving the impression of picking a winner. So the objection based on confusion was found to be a valid objection. Not having that acknowledgement within the HTML5 specification does not exclude Microdata as a valid extension any more than not including the RDFa acknowledgements in the HTML5 specfication excludes RDFa as a valid extension. So the objection on exclusion was found to be weak. The amount of effort required to modify the spec generator to create an ack section just for the microdata spec was not treated as a strong objection. *** Decision of the Working Group *** Therefore, the HTML Working Group hereby adopts the "move a sentence from the W3C HTML5 spec into the Microdata spec " Proposal for ISSUE-139. Of the Change Proposals before us, this one has drawn the weaker objections. == Next Steps == Bug 10718 is to be REOPENED and marked as WGDecision. Since the prevailing Change Proposal does call for a spec change, the editor is hereby directed to make the changes in accordance to the change proposal. Once those changes are complete ISSUE-139 is to be marked as CLOSED. == Appealing this Decision == If anyone strongly disagrees with the content of the decision and would like to raise a Formal Objection, they may do so at this time. Formal Objections are reviewed by the Director in consultation with the Team. Ordinarily, Formal Objections are only reviewed as part of a transition request. == Revisiting this Issue == This issue can be reopened if new information come up. Examples of possible relevant new information include: * A desire by the editors of the RDFa in HTML specification to include analogous acknowledgements into the HTML5 specification. === Arguments not considered: The following arguments were not considered: "wastes my time" and "wasteful of the group's time". The amount of time needed to create the bug, create the issue, create the survey, and produce this decision is not in question. All of it could have been avoided by simply moving the one sentence when it was first noted.
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