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Re: Working Group Decision on ISSUE-101 us-ascii-ref

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:08:09 -0400
Message-ID: <4D80B639.4040201@intertwingly.net>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
CC: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
On 03/16/2011 08:20 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 16.03.2011 12:46, Sam Ruby wrote:
>>> Sam,
>>>
>>> the chair decision seems to be based on the assumption that the
>>> reference isn't normative, and thus RFC 1345 is "good enough". I'm
>>> *just* trying to understand the decision, because understanding it
>>> properly is necessary to decide what to do next.
>>
>> The quote "good enough" appears nowhere in the decision.
>>
>> I repeat: if you wish to pursue this further, I suggest that you present
>> new information as described by the decision, and accompany this
>> information with a Change Proposal. I also encourage you to review the
>> objections that were made to the previous proposal and to work with the
>> individuals that made those objections.
>>
>> Once we have an actual Change Proposal in hand, we can discuss this
>> further. Until then, the Chairs believe that the Group has duly
>> considered the legitimate concerns of dissenters as far as is possible
>> and reasonable, and that the group SHOULD move on.
>>
>>> Best regards, Julian
>
> Sam,
>
> with all due respect: I don't think I'm asking too much:
>
> - do *you* consider the reference to be informative?
>
> and
>
> - what exactly does it mean when you say "While it was not found to be
> the strongest objection, the fact that the IETF no longer considers this
> RFC to be official is a serious issue is a strong objection that merits
> consideration by the Working Group."?
>
> It depends on the answers to these whether I'll file new bugs or
> consider a formal objection.

I've responded off list.  The only thing I will add at this time is that 
any bugs on this subject that are opened without providing new 
information will be summarily closed.

> Best regards, Julian

- Sam Ruby
Received on Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:08:44 GMT

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