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RE: CfC: close ISSUE-128 figure-in-p by amicable resolution

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:54:44 +0000
To: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
CC: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
Message-ID: <E3EACD022300B94D88613639CF4E25F818654B14@TK5EX14MBXC132.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
Given this objection to amicable resolution, the Chairs will review the results of the ISSUE-128 survey [1] to determine the outcome of this issue.

/paulc

[1] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-128-objection-poll/results 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Leif Halvard Silli [mailto:xn--mlform-iua@målform.no] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:13 PM
To: Paul Cotton
Cc: public-html@w3.org; Henri Sivonen
Subject: Re: CfC: close ISSUE-128 figure-in-p by amicable resolution

Paul Cotton, Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:08:24 +0000:
> Henri Sivonen wrote:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jan/0278.html
>> I hereby withdraw ISSUE-128 and the associated Change Proposal that I 
>> have filed per step "0. Amicable Resolution" in the Escalation 
>> Process documented in the HTML Working Group Decision Policy.
> 
> Since the original change proposal for ISSUE-128 has been withdrawn, 
> the chairs are issuing a call for consensus on the counter proposal 
> that we do have.  See the counter proposal in:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Oct/0055.html
>  
> If no objections are raised to this call by 2 February 2011, we will 
> direct the editor to implement the counter proposal which makes no 
> changes to the specification.  If anybody would like to raise an 
> objection during this time, we strongly encourage them to accompany 
> their objection with a concrete and complete change proposal.

I must then object.

It was not 100% true of Henri to state that there were no support for his proposal: Henri invited others to co-edit his proposal, and I added some wordings, that Henri accepted and took in (although he mailed me that he altered some of what I wrote).

I offer as concrete an complete change proposal the existing proposal by Henri, with contributions from myself. Is that enough? If it _not_ enough, what then? If I offered a new proposal, would there then be a new poll? The only things that perhaps could be given more weight in Henri's proposal, are the accessibility concerns - a permission to use <figure> inside a <p> would mean that authors would be hindered from giving it a <figcaption> label just because it appears inside a paragraph.

With regards,
Leif Halvard Silli
Received on Thursday, 27 January 2011 16:55:31 GMT

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