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Re: raising hgroup as an issue

From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 02:38:51 -0700
Cc: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
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To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>

It looks like two of those bugs (11731, 11828) are resolved, you are certainly free to escalate them at any time if you are dissatisfied with the outcome.

11737 is indeed still open. I would personally advise waiting on that one. We're currently asking the editor to prioritize applying WG decisions. Once the bulk of that work is complete and we are on track to Last Call, we will ask editors to look at LC bugs; there is quite a large backlog. In the meantime, I would personally prefer not to distract Ian from work on applying decisions by asking him to jump on specific LC bugs.

Regards,
Maciej

On Apr 7, 2011, at 2:03 AM, Steve Faulkner wrote:

> Hi Maciej,
> 
> on february 1st you wrote:
> 
> "so far, the editor hasn't resolved the bug yet, and it's been less than 30 days. If the bug gets rejected, or if it sits unaddressed for an overly long time, it would be fine to escalate it to an issue."
> 
> its now april 7th and there has been no action by the editor, so would like to raise it as a last call issue, any objections?
> 
> Lars Gunther provides a good summation of where we are at in regards to hgroup [1]
> 
> I for one think that hgroup is something worth discussing sooner rather than later, as I believe there is a good chance that  further discussion and review will lead to a substantive change. Having hgroup as is,  in the HTML5 spec, if indeed it is removed or modified, does no one any favours especially developers who may use the element.
> 
> bugs [2] relating to hgroup
> 
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jan/0256.html
> [2] 11731 , 11737 , 11828
> 
> 
> regards
> stevef
> 
> On 1 February 2011 19:27, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:16 AM, John Foliot wrote:
> 
> > Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
> >>
> >> That's definitely the case, and we intent to apply the decision policy
> >> as usual. If the bug report on this ends up escalated to a tracker
> >> issue, we will treat it as a Last Call issue.  All I'm saying is that
> >> we do not intend to do anything special outside the bounds of the usual
> >> process.
> >
> > Given the scope of the topic being discussed (should <hgroup> remain) it
> > seems that this is beyond just a simple bug, and so it needs to be
> > escalated as an issue, then sit back and wait for it to be addressed in
> > due course - is that correct Maciej?
> >
> > Steve, do you care to do the honors?
> 
> So far, the editor hasn't resolved the bug yet, and it's been less than 30 days. If the bug gets rejected, or if it sits unaddressed for an overly long time, it would be fine to escalate it to an issue.
> 
> Regards,
> Maciej
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> with regards
> 
> Steve Faulkner
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> 
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