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Re: ISSUE-93 (details): Return Details Element [HTML 5 spec]

From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:23:57 -0800
Cc: Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, HTML Weekly WG <public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org>, public-html@w3.org
Message-id: <47CB2F0F-46CB-435F-8C1A-93EA79157A37@apple.com>
To: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>

Hi Jonas,

On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote:

>
> 2. cc'ing the public-html list in bugzilla does not work.
>
> Adding someone to the cc list in bugzilla usually results in that
> email address being notified for most changes in the bug. Definitely
> including when discussion takes place in the bug. However this does
> not seem to be the case when cc'ing the public-html@w3.org email
> address to the cc list of a bug. No emails are sent to the public-html
> list even though public-html has been added to the cc list of the bug.
>
> Yes, there are other instances when bugzilla sends emails to the
> public-html list. Such as when the "NE" keyword is added to a bug.
> This does not however change the fact that adding public-html to the
> cc list in bugzilla does not yield the expected results of public-html
> receiving emails for subsequent comments added to bug.

This does indeed seem to be a bug in our bugzilla setup and we should  
get it fixed. In this case, I don't think it would have constructively  
increased notice to the Working Group (since the initial email when it  
was tagged NE would have been the only one), but it is something we  
should fix for the future.

Shelley, Jonas's bug report does not in any way reflect on you.

More generally on this topic: the Decision Policy makes mailing list  
discussion an optional step before going to bugzilla. That means we're  
counting on contributors to exercise good judgment on what deserves  
prior discussion, what bugs should be noted on the mailing list, etc.  
In addition, we're counting on people who spend a lot of time  
monitoring bugzilla to point out bugs the group may particularly care  
about. In this case, notice was given but for whatever reason, many  
people didn't notice and the bug slipped through the cracks without  
due discussion. Maybe this is a sign that in the future, we should all  
try extra hard to bring such things to the group's notice. In the  
meantime, I don't think it's fair to blame Shelley for what happened  
(if anyone is doing so), and I'm not sure we need a big change in  
procedure.

Regards,
Maciej
Received on Friday, 8 January 2010 20:24:31 UTC

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