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Re: ISSUE-4 (html-versioning) (vs. ISSUE-30 longdesc)

From: Adam Barth <w3c@adambarth.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:38:04 -0800
Message-ID: <5c4444771002271838u8825f64g2789ea49ff04076@mail.gmail.com>
To: Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org>
Cc: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
I guess I don't see the connection with version indicators.  This
seems to be an argument that longdesc should still be conforming so
that folks can author conformant HTML5 documents that meet these
requirements.  Folks are, of course, free to continue to author
conforming HTML4 documents that meet these requirements.

Adam


On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org> wrote:
> Re-reading it, your interpretation sounds more
> plausible than the one I came up with.
>
> However, there's still
>
>> Checkpoint 1.1
>> Provide a text equivalent for every non-text
>> element (e.g., via "alt", "longdesc", or in element content).
>
> Wouldn't the the test suite would have to be updated
> to recognize there was a new way of alternatively
> providing text equivalents for non-text elements,
> and also that "longdesc" was no longer recognized
> as a valid way of providing a text equivalent?
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maciej Stachowiak [mailto:mjs@apple.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:18 PM
> To: Larry Masinter
> Cc: 'HTML WG'
> Subject: Re: ISSUE-4 (html-versioning) (vs. ISSUE-30 longdesc)
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Larry Masinter wrote:
>
>>
>> The actual tests for conformance evaluation include
>> testing for whether  longdesc is there:
>>
>> Test 1.1_HTML_04
>> This test is targeted to analyse long descriptions
>> of media elements.
>> * Applicability criteria: all long descriptions
>>   of images and media elements.
>>  //img/@longdesc
>>  //object//a/@href
>> * Test procedure:
>>   1. Check that the long description referenced
>>      by the longdesc or href attribute is available.
>>   2. Check that it appropriately describes the element.
>> * Expected results: FAIL if #1 or #2 is false.
>
> I think you're misstating what this test says. It says that *if*
> longdesc is present on an element, *then* the document it points to
> must be available, and must appropriately describe the element. It
> does not say longdesc is required to be present in the first place.
>
> Regards,
> Maciej
>
>
>
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