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RE: what's the language of a document ?

From: Tex Texin <textexin@xencraft.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:20:11 -0800
To: "'Richard Ishida'" <ishida@w3.org>, "'Ian Hickson'" <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: <www-international@w3.org>, <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <003301caa979$d8633e00$8929ba00$@com>
I don't think it is a fine point Richard, keeping clear on the precedence is
important.
thanks
tex

-----Original Message-----
From: www-international-request@w3.org
[mailto:www-international-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 2:59 AM
To: 'Ian Hickson'
Cc: www-international@w3.org; public-html@w3.org
Subject: RE: what's the language of a document ?

> > I was about to write that I'm as happy with 'pragma-set default
> > language' as with 'Content-Language pragma language', but on reflection,
> > your proposal does still sound like the pragma may have set the default,
> > whereas it wouldn't do so if there were an attribute on the html tag.
> > (I know that CL pragma language is rather ugly though.)
> 
> I don't understand... doesn't the pragma in fact set the default?

If by 'default language' we mean 'the language of the page as a whole', I
guess it can do, unless html lang="..." is being used (in which case the
lang attribute sets the default). It may be that I'm arguing too fine a
point here. 

RI

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Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)

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http://rishida.net/




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Hickson [mailto:ian@hixie.ch]
> Sent: 08 February 2010 23:12
> To: Richard Ishida
> Cc: www-international@w3.org; public-html@w3.org
> Subject: RE: what's the language of a document ?
> 
> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Richard Ishida wrote:
> >
> > Did you see http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Htmlissue88 ? (Which
has
> > been submitted and was moved forward a notch at the HTML telecon last
> week).
> 
> I did not. (FWIW, I was told by the HTMLWG chairs that the telecons were
> just status update meetings, so as I understand it nothing can actually
> move at all during those meetings.)
> 
> 
> > I'm just asking so that I know whether you took those suggestions into
> > account when I read what you ended up writing - I noticed a couple of
> > proposed changes there that you didn't do.
> 
> That's possible; I was going from my notes at the F2F. Please feel free to
> file bugs for any remaining issues if you haven't already, and I'll make
> sure to go through them carefully.
> 
> 
> > I was about to write that I'm as happy with 'pragma-set default
> > language' as with 'Content-Language pragma language', but on reflection,
> > your proposal does still sound like the pragma may have set the default,
> > whereas it wouldn't do so if there were an attribute on the html tag.
> > (I know that CL pragma language is rather ugly though.)
> 
> I don't understand... doesn't the pragma in fact set the default?
> 
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