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Re: what is dt?

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:10:20 +0200
Message-ID: <4AB2515C.6030303@xn--mlform-iua.no>
To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
CC: Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>, Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net>, Lars Gunther <gunther@keryx.se>, Leif Halvard Silli <lhs@malform.no>, public-html@w3.org
Laura Carlson On 09-09-17 16.30:

> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:26:47 +0200, Shelley Powers
>> <shelleyp@burningbird.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Laura Carlson wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> What about using a <summary> as a generalized element with <details>
>>>> etc. Leif mentioned  this previously.
>>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Jun/0045.html
>>> This strikes me as an interesting proposal, and when it comes to Figure,
>>> has been proposed by others[1]. The rejection of the idea, because of how
>>> browsers currently implement the DOM for HTML4 puzzles me, since we're
>>> changing the DOM for HTML5, anyway.
>> <summary> would be no problem in <figure> and <details> as far as parsing
>> goes. In <table>, however, it would be a problem because in legacy browsers
>> the element would be moved outside the <table> in the DOM.
> 
> Maybe start thinking about a new generic term?
> <synopsis>, <abstract>, <precis> come to mind. Others?

At the moment we discuss the problem of a caption. <summary> 
represents a caption for accessibility purposes. Since I am for 
the moment suggesting that we simply do

	<dl figure ><dt>Caption<dd>Content</dl>

the problem of such a hidden caption could be solved by adding a 
hidden <dt>

	<dl figure >
              <dt>Caption
              <dt hidden >Long description
              <dd>Content</dl>

Should work fine with the logics of DL - where a DD can have more 
than one DT.

To follow the same pattern in <table>, we could allow _two_ 
subsequent <caption> elements there. In June this year I 
demonstrated that this works quite well across all UAs.
-- 
leif halvard silli
Received on Thursday, 17 September 2009 15:11:03 GMT

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