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Re: Why "Platform Core" and "HTML5" are in the same spec

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:55:24 +0000 (UTC)
To: Nikunj Mehta <nikunj.mehta@oracle.com>
Cc: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0811212147070.19253@hixie.dreamhostps.com>

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Nikunj Mehta wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > They're not particularily good reasons, but splitting those two 
> > > > parts up would delay progress by a year or more, and that is 
> > > > unacceptable IMHO.
> > > 
> > > Sorry but Hixie's opinion is not what decides the matter here.
> > 
> > Well, it decides it as much as yours, right?
> Seeing what is flying around here, my opinion or for that matter that of 
> anyone not agreeing with you seems to have very little impact on 
> decisions.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I assure you that the W3C process gives me no 
such authority. If there are issues where I have decided against you for 
personal reasons, please do raise these issues again. I do not believe I 
have ever made any decisions of that nature in the development of HTML5; I 
try to base all my editing decisions on technical reasoning, reported 
implementation experience, and data found through research.

> Also, if you were not being satirical when you said "a decade or more 
> out from the core parts of the spec being interoperably implemented" 
> [1], then how does an extra year (assuming you are actually right) make 
> any difference?

Splitting up the parts of the spec you mentioned would delay CR by a year 
or more. (The current timetable has CR in 2012.)

> I am willing to edit SQL, offline application cache as well as server 
> sent events

Those parts are mostly written; even if we do split out those sections, 
the amount of work they would require is minimal and I would be quite 
happy to continue doing that work. Where help is needed is in the sections 
listed in this e-mail:


Splitting up the specs to help make progress faster, measured either as 
reaching CR faster, decoupling dependencies that might reach REC faster, 
getting specification text written faster, or, most importantly, getting 
interoperable implementations faster, is interesting. IMHO, splitting up 
the specs for no reason other than editorial preference is not.

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