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Re: X(HT)ML Fragment Identifiers

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:20:08 +0000 (UTC)
To: Robert J Burns <rob@robburns.com>
Cc: "Michael(tm) Smith" <mike@w3.org>, public-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0806121008431.6527@hixie.dreamhostps.com>

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, Robert J Burns wrote:
> On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:08 AM, Michael(tm) Smith wrote:
> > Robert J Burns <rob@robburns.com>, 2008-06-10 00:37 +0200:
> > > 
> > > Bugzilla is the latest suggestion for a new way to track issues.
> > 
> > It is something quite more than a suggestion. Unless and until you 
> > hear otherwise, it is among the recognized means that both members of 
> > the group and the public have for registering proposals that they 
> > would like for the group and editor to consider.
> 
> With all the confusion being logged about these issue tracking issues 
> (even by the editor), I would say it is a very poor suggestion too. So 
> in that sense it is both more than and less than a suggestion. As others 
> have brought up all ready, these procedural problems are not the sort of 
> thing at which we can just throw another web tool. We need a clearer 
> outline of how issues should be raised and how they will be addressed.

I agree that we need more clarity on this topic, and I hope that the 
chairs will provide such guidance in the near future.

As far as Bugzilla goes, if we make it the group's issue-tracking 
mechanism I would be happy to give any issue that ends up on this list:

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&bug_status=NEW                                        

...the same level of response that I give any e-mail sent to the WHATWG 
list; that is, given full consideration and given an explicit response. 
Obviously some sort of oversight/appeals process would be necessary so 
that I can't start just doing whatever I want and ignore real input -- in 
the WHATWG world, that consists of a small set of people who have the 
power to overrule or depose me. I'm not sure what a good mechanism would 
be in the HTML WG; having a single person have ultimate authority to 
override me would just move the problem to someone else; having the whole 
working group vote would just turn it into a campaigning exercise; having 
a small group of people have override authority would mean coming up with 
some way to pick that group; etc.

Hopefully Mike, Dan, or Chris will soon give us guidance as to exactly 
what consists of the "open issues" for the spec that I should be looking 
at, and how other people on the group should be raising issues on that 
list.

Cheers,
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