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Re: [Reminder]: SMIL Timesheets 1.0 Last Call Transition Announcement

From: Marghanita da Cruz <marghanita@ramin.com.au>
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:30:13 +1100
Message-ID: <47B64AB5.6010903@ramin.com.au>
To: Thierry Michel <tmichel@w3.org>
CC: public-html@w3.org

Hi Thiery,

Perhaps editing and moving the bits you have highlighted, higher up in the 
Introduction and into the Abstract would be useful. To me, it seems more 
important than the reference to XML.

>> SMIL Timesheets can be seen as a temporal counterpart of CSS. Whereas 
>> CSS defines the spatial layout of the document and formatting of the 
>> elements,SMIL Timesheets specify which elements are active at a certain 
>> moment and what their temporal scope is within a document. And as with 
>> CSS, SMIL Timesheets can be reused in multiple documents, which can 
>> provide a common temporal framework for multimedia presentations with 
>> different contents but identical storylines. 

My suggested rewording would be along the lines of

"SMIL Timesheets provide a temporaral counterpart to CSS for the 
presentation/viewing/incorporation of Multimedia elements into Webpages. SMIL 
Timesheets [allow an author to] specify which elements are active.

As with CSS, SMIL timesheets can be reused/are available to multiple documents. "

I don't  quite understand what you are trying to say here.

 >>The document can be shown
 >> in a user agent even if SMIL Timesheets are not supported, since the
 >> contents and the layout are still governed by the document itself. Of
 >> course, the temporal aspect of the document is then lost, since all the
 >> elements are active all the time."

Perhaps....
"In the event SMIL timesheets are not supported by a User Agent, the contents 
and layout, are still governed by the document, though the temporal aspects of 
the multimedia elements may be lost."

Marghanita

Thierry Michel wrote:
> 
> Marghanita,
> 
> Thanks for your comment.
> 
> 
> I read in SMIL Timesheets 1.0 introduction the following statement
> 
> "This document defines an XMLdefines an XML-based timing language that 
> makes SMIL 3.0 element and attribute timing control available to a wide 
> range of other XML-based languages. This language allows SMIL timing to 
> be integrated into a wide variety of a-temporal languages, even when 
> several such languages are combined in a compound document. Because of 
> its similarity with external style and positioning descriptions in the 
> Cascading Style Sheet (CSS) language, this functionality has been termed 
> SMIL Timesheets.
> SMIL Timesheets can be seen as a temporal counterpart of CSS. Whereas 
> CSS defines the spatial layout of the document and formatting of the 
> elements,SMIL Timesheets specify which elements are active at a certain 
> moment and what their temporal scope is within a document. And as with 
> CSS, SMIL Timesheets can be reused in multiple documents, which can 
> provide a common temporal framework for multimedia presentations with 
> different contents but identical storylines. The document can be shown 
> in a user agent even if SMIL Timesheets are not supported, since the 
> contents and the layout are still governed by the document itself. Of 
> course, the temporal aspect of the document is then lost, since all the 
> elements are active all the time."
> 
> 
> Could you please say what else should we say to explain positioning of 
> SMIL Timesheets and what it offers ?
> What do you find unclear ?
> 
> 
> 
> There is also an example showing how to combine SMIL Timesheets with 
> XHTML, for a simple slide show. This is just one example showing how to 
> add timing with SMIL Timesheets to an XML-based languages, like XHTML.
> 
> Should we have  another example with another ML-based language ?
> 
> Thanks for your suggestion.
> 
> Thierry.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  da Cruz wrote:
>> Hi Thierry,
>>
>> As someone who has dabbled in Video on the Web and SMIL, reading 
>> through the
>> abstract and introduction I found it difficult to position the 
>> timesheets.
>>
>> It would help, those outside the SMIL group, to position the SMIL 
>> timesheets if
>> the abstract and introduction provided an elaboration of what SMIL 
>> is/offers.
>>
>> Perhaps and Audience section would also help.
>>
>> Marghanita
>>
>> Thierry Michel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Last Call review period for SMIL Timesheets 1.0 extends until 15 
>>> Febuary 2008.
>>>
>>> We have not yet received your comments on the public mailing 
>>> www-smil@w3.org,
>>>
>>>   In particular, comments from the following groups:
>>>
>>>     - Compound Documents Format Working Group
>>>     - CSS Working Group
>>>     - HTML Working Group
>>>     - Scalable Vector Graphics Working Group
>>>     - Members of the Hypertext Coordination Group
>>>
>>> When do you plan to send your review ?
>>> Let us know if you need more delay.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thierry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thierry Michel wrote:
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>  The SYMM Working Group has published its First and Last Call Working
>>>> Draft of the  SMIL Timesheets 1.0
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-timesheets-20080110/
>>>>
>>>> This document defines an XML timing language that makes SMIL 3.0 
>>>> element
>>>> and attribute timing control available to a wide range of other XML
>>>> languages. This language allows SMIL timing to be integrated into a 
>>>> wide
>>>> variety of a-temporal languages, even when several such languages are
>>>> combined in a compound document. Because of its similarity with 
>>>> external
>>>> style and positioning descriptions in the Cascading Style Sheet (CSS)
>>>> language, this functionality has been termed SMIL Timesheets.
>>>>
>>>> The SYMM WG actively requests members of related WG's to read and
>>>> comment on these technologies.
>>>>
>>>> The Last Call review period for this document extends until 15 Febuary
>>>>  2008. Please send comments to the public mailing www-smil@w3.org,
>>>>  including the prefix'[Timesheets LC comment]' in the subject line.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  In particular, we invite comments from the following groups:
>>>>
>>>>    - Compound Documents Format Working Group
>>>>    - CSS Working Group
>>>>    - HTML Working Group
>>>>    - Scalable Vector Graphics Working Group
>>>>    - Members of the Hypertext Coordination Group
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Patent disclosure page of this SYMM WG is at
>>>>  http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/35663/status
>>>>
>>>>  The SYMM WG approval for Last Call publication is at
>>>>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/symm/2008Jan/0021.html
>>>>  There is no formal objection associated with this document.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Best regards,
>>>>  Thierry Michel  Team contact, on behalf of the co-Chairs, SYMM
>>>> Working Group
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 


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