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Re: One more thought about requiring the alt to add to the pile

From: David Poehlman <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:59:22 -0400
Message-ID: <00fd01c8a310$44ffd400$0901a8c0@HANDS>
To: "Henri Sivonen" <hsivonen@iki.fi>
Cc: "Steven Faulkner" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, <public-html@w3.org>, "W3C WAI-XTECH" <wai-xtech@w3.org>, <wai-liaison@w3.org>

we need to have one mode in which all information is provided to the user 
through the rendering agent.  This I consider to be a JAWS bug.  I agree 
that this is correct average scale behavior but for the kind of work that I 
and others do it is terribly missleading.

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From: "Henri Sivonen" <hsivonen@iki.fi>
To: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
Cc: "Steven Faulkner" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>; <public-html@w3.org>; "W3C 
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Subject: Re: One more thought about requiring the alt to add to the pile



On Apr 20, 2008, at 19:03, David Poehlman wrote:

> This is dangerous though as if you need to know that the text is
> null alted,
> you won't even know to look so JAWS should at least announce
> "graphic".


I'm not sure I follow. Isn't the whole point of the empty string as
alt that the image can be totally removed from the non-graphic
rendering as in Safari+VoiceOver and Lynx? (And that's why it is so
bad to use the empty string alt on images whose presence needs to be
announced for the surrounding page to appear sensible.)

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