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Re: Feedback on the ping="" attribute (ISSUE-1)

From: Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@MIT.EDU>
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:56:51 -0600
Message-ID: <47335BF3.3070805@mit.edu>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
CC: public-html@w3.org

Julian Reschke wrote:
> The difference here is that for POST (as-in-HTML-without-scripting), you 
> still can *see* the difference before invoking the action (link vs button).

Uh...  No.  You can't, without using something like Firebug (or _maybe_ 
reading the source if script is disabled).  Try to see the difference 
between the following two:

   <a href="http://www.example.com"
      style="color: black; text-decoration: underline">Click me</a>

   <form action="http://www.example.com" method="POST">
     <input type="image"
            style="color: black; text-decoration: underline"
            alt="Click me">
   </form>

You might have to toss some font styling in as well, but sites do that 
with links all the time.

Or one could go the other way, and either use things like 
-moz-appearance or use an <a href=""><img></a> to make a link look like 
a form submission button.

> In this case things are even worse because you're following something 
> that looks like a link, but behaves differently.

There are plenty of links out there that look like a link but are not, 
due to JS.  Users don't really have a firm concept of "behaves like a 
link" from what I can see.

-Boris
Received on Thursday, 8 November 2007 19:13:38 UTC

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