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Re: Support Existing Content

From: Gareth Hay <gazhay@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 08:23:32 +0100
Message-Id: <C67AE6EB-C0A1-4563-85DF-930B8418C1A3@gmail.com>
Cc: matt@builtfromsource.com, public-html@w3.org
To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>


On 3 May 2007, at 20:40, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:

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> On May 3, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Gareth Hay wrote:
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>> On 3 May 2007, at 18:07, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On May 2, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Gareth Hay wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not trying to make lives easier on any side.
>>>> The web is a mess, even you concede this point with your  
>>>> rantings about external advertising content.
>>>> Do you want it to continue like this? or do you want to pro- 
>>>> actively fix it?
>>>
>>> What's the point of "fixing the web" if it doesn't make anyone's  
>>> lives easier? This is a totally serious question - a lot of  
>>> people seem to be advocating the forcing of valid markup  
>>> regardless of whether it helps or hurts people. Surely the reason  
>>> for abstract goals like use of conforming markup is to have good  
>>> concrete effects.
>>>
>> It only hurts the lazy, or the uneducated author. Either can  
>> change easily.
>> I'm not advocating we make HTML rocket science or brain surgery,  
>> it doesn't have to be hard, at the moment it /is/ hard because it  
>> id broken, new authors find broken ways of doing things and see  
>> nothing wrong "because it works".
>
> OK, that's an example of the kind of people it will hurt. (Besides  
> that I'd add browser developers, users accessing content that was  
> only tested in a browser that doesn't do strict checking with a  
> browser that does, and content authors who want to improve their  
> markup incrementally). But who will it help? If it hurts some  
> people and helps nobody, what is the point?
>
Do you honestly think that by encouraging people to write more  
correct code is not a help to anyone?
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