{minutes} HTML WG telecon 2014-10-09: DOM4 CfC, TF Reports, doc status, F2F plans

Draft minutes are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-html-wg-minutes.html

A text version is below.


W3C
- DRAFT -

HTML Weekly Teleconference

09 Oct 2014

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
janina, Sam, Plh, ShaneM, paulc_, gregDavis
Regrets
Chair
paulc_
Scribe
ShaneM
Contents

Topics
Action items due today
Items closing this week
New Calls this week
Draft [URL] reference update to informative text
Task Force Reports
Accessibility Task Force Report
Media Task Force
Canvas Task Force
Any other business
HTML WG F2F and TPAC, Oct 30-31
Scribe for next meeting
Summary of Action Items
<trackbot> Date: 09 October 2014
<paulc_> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 09 October 2014
<scribe> Scribe: ShaneM
<paulc_> Agenda:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0001.html
<paulc_> Scribenick: ShaneM
Action items due today

none

Items closing this week

none

New Calls this week

a) CfC: Request transition of DOM4 to Proposed Recommendation

<paulc_>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Oct/0013.html
<paulc_> See also:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Oct/0000.html
plh: Boris noted that some of the statements in the spec dont match
reality. Flagged two.
... should probably do a deeper analysis of the tests that are failing on
all the implementations.
... the first one he caught is a clear item where the spec needs to change.
... 103 tests are failing. Mostly related to WebIDL. Are going to need time
for further investigation.

PC: Has a bug been filed?

PLH: I don't know - Robin has been working on it.

PC: When we get to the end of the CfC we are going to need that data to
report back to the group.

Draft [URL] reference update to informative text

<paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Oct/0002.html
A few responses. Caused a couple of changes to the proposed text.

<paulc_> Proposed text is at: http://dev.w3.org/html5/2014/10/url-ref.html
Task Force Reports

Accessibility Task Force Report

janina: There is a draft longdesc decision floating around W3M.
... once that is out we will be able to decide how to unblock the alt note.
... there was a long discussion about it in the A11Y Task Force meeting
today. See the minutes for details.
... Basically there are changes needed whichever way the decision goes.
There will be bugs filed against the alt document once the longdesc
decision is ready.
... lots of A11Y discussions at TPAC. See the minutes for details.

Media Task Force

<paulc_> Media TF minutes:
http://www.w3.org/2014/10/07-html-media-minutes.html
Spent 90% of the time processing EME bugs.

<paulc_> http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo for open EME bugs
There are about 19 or 20 bugs.

There are 3 or 4 significant areas that are blocking the rest of the issues.

<paulc_> Media TF has asked for Fri morning at the TPAC F2F meeting
scribe: converting the spec to ReSpec format.

Canvas Task Force

<rubys>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014JulSep/0039.html
<rubys> https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Canvas_Task_Force/CR-Test
<rubys>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014OctDec/0010.html
rubys: test results. plan is to have all the tests run at least once by
tomorrow. Not a lot of progress so far so it is possible that date will be
missed.
... next meeting is tomorrow. Anyone interested should join!

Any other business

a) Longdesc CR

<paulc_> See http://www.w3.org/2014/09/18-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03
janina: heard that there may be a decision forthcoming.
... implementation report ready. PR version of the spec is ready. If the
decision goes in favor of the spec, we are ready to put out the CfC request
to proceed to PR.

b) Text alternatives

<paulc_>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Oct/0015.html
This is effectively blocked until the longdesc decision is complete.
Whichever way the decision goes some tweak will be needed.

<SteveF> am here to respond to any questions on alt doc
<paulc_> FTR see the A11Y TF discussions today on text alternatives:
http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-html-a11y-minutes.html
<paulc_> SteveF: get in touch with me if you want re text alternatives
status
<janina> The Proposed Recommendation (PR) draft is available at:
<janina> http://www.w3.org/2014/09/04-PR-html-longdesc/
<janina> Our Implementation Report for this specification showing that it
meets
<janina> W3C recommendation requirements is available at:
<janina> http://w3c.github.io/test-results/html-longdesc/cr-report.html
HTML WG F2F and TPAC, Oct 30-31

<paulc_> https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-10-Agenda
<paulc_> See https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-10-Agenda#Day_1
Agenda is getting locked down because of required time coordination with
other groups.

<SteveF> paulc_: will do, would like to point out a number of incorrect
statements made in todays taskforce meet
scribe: try to do the A11Y stuff on Thursday morning.
... Joint session with dPub, CSS, A11Y and HTML on thursday afternoon.
... Media TF has asked for a slot Friday morning.

janina: not aware that CSS is going to be part of that meeting. They are
sending some people, not the whole group.

Scribe for next meeting

Next meeting is 16 October. Sam will chair.

Adjourned.

Summary of Action Items