HME WG meeting minutes, Tue Aug 30

The minutes for the HME WG meeting on Tue Aug 16 are at http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html
and below.

/paulc
HME WG Chair

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329



[W3C]<http://www.w3.org/>

- DRAFT -
HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
30 Aug 2016

Agenda<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0105.html>

See also: IRC log<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-irc>

Attendees
Present
paulc, MattWolenetz, markw, jdsmith, johnsim, ddorwin
Regrets
Chair
paulc
Scribe
paulc
Contents

  *   Topics<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#agenda>
     *   EME Editorial issues<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#item01>
     *   EME nonblocking issues<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#item02>
     *   EME registry issues<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#item03>
     *   Other EME issues<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#item04>
     *   EME registry issues (again)<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#item05>
     *   EME at risk features<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#item06>
     *   EME test suite<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#item07>
     *   MSE draft Proposed Recommendation<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#item08>
     *   MSE test suite results<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#item09>
  *   Summary of Action Items<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
  *   Summary of Resolutions<http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary>

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<markw> \mw I have a hard stop at 9am

<scribe> Scribenick: paulc
EME Editorial issues

ISSUE-211 and ISSUE-293 are still outstanding.

293 is block on respec fixes. The text is fine.

Mark is working on 211 this week.

David will change 211 to not be editorial since it does not impact the current doc.
EME nonblocking issues

ISSUE-242 and ISSUE-237 are still outstanding.

David has done a PR for 237. Mark will review -237 PR more.

David will then tackle a PR for -242.

It looks like the above editorial and nonblocking issues will be done this week.
EME registry issues

Philippe is not present to give an update. This was scheduled to be done by last Friday.
Other EME issues

Outstanding issues includ ISSUE-288 from Wendy. Paul to take action here.

Formal objections in ISSUE-304 and ISSUE-305 will be added to the Formal Objections page since neither will be resolved in V1.
EME registry issues (again)

EME issues 104, 183 and 213 will be done this afternoon.

MSE ISSUE-74 will also be done today for MSE registry.

Updates to EME registry will be done today.

MSE registry will be published for the first time on Thu.
EME at risk features

<plh> David: one feature got removed

>Support for insecure contexts, including the Are insecure contexts allowed? has already been removed

The other two at risk features are awaiting testing results.
EME test suite

See Jerry's updates on tesing:

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0106.html

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0107.html

<plh> Paul: questions were asked but not many answers

<plh> Jerry: we have timeouts

<plh> ... and they're not counted as failures

<plh> ... and we have a large number of those

<plh> ... don't know why yet

<plh> Mark: wasn't aware we had those timeouts... will need to look into this

<plh> ... if the playback doesn't start, you get a timeout

<plh> <meta name="timeout" content="long">

<plh> https://github.com/w3c/testharness.js/blob/master/docs/api.md#harness-timeout

<plh> Paul: what about the naming?

<plh> Mark: will fix it

MArk will replace the key system name in the test name with either 'drm' or 'clearKey'. See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0108.html

Mark will do the above two changes, Jerry will review any PRs and then re-run the tests.

<plh> plh: better to let testharness.js to time out and report those as failures in wptreport

<plh> Jerry: some tests migration need to be done

outstanding PR for EME test suite: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Apr%20is%3Aopen%20label%3Aencrypted-media

ISSUE https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues/3583 outlines Google tests to be migrated. Netflix is working on some of these.

Netflix is working on the 7 tests identified in https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues/3583#issuecomment-243203368

There are 14 others to be migrated.

David cannot do this work item this week.

Jerry will look into doing some of the remaining Google test migrations.

<plh> Mark: which implementation can we use to test?

<plh> ... for persistent license

<plh> ... ChromeOS?

<plh> Jerry: I think Edge doesn't support the session type

<plh> Paul: Firefox?

<plh> Mark: didn't seem to work when I tried it

<plh> Paul: if you ask on the list, you might get an answer

<plh> Mark: we ran some of the tests on a castTV device, using polyfill

<plh> Paul: as long as we make it clear in the implementation report...

<plh> David: cast implementation is a private one, not intended to be used.

<plh> ... was created for Netflix
MSE draft Proposed Recommendation

<plh> Paul: I proposed that it was time to do this

<plh> ACTION: plh to generate the new MSE draft PR, pointing to the testing results [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-108 - Generate the new mse draft pr, pointing to the testing results [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2016-09-06].
MSE test suite results

<plh> Paul: still some outstanding pull requests

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0102.html is Matt's most recent update

<plh> Matt: going through them...

Outstanding PRs: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Amedia-source

<plh> ... resolving the merge conflict

<plh> ... I'll send out an update later today

<plh> ... rerunning the report

<plh> plh: I can rerun the tests

<plh> Matt: we have some idl failures

<plh> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/blob/master/media-source/interfaces.html

<plh> http://w3c-test.org/media-source/interfaces.html

<plh> Matt: if they are known bugs, how do we report it?

<plh> Paul: in an email is fine

Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: plh to generate the new MSE draft PR, pointing to the testing results [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html#action01]

Summary of Resolutions
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