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RE: Korean should default to word-break: keep-all or not?

From: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp>
Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 03:04:48 -0400
To: "HTML Korean Interest Group (public-html-ig-ko@w3.org)" <public-html-ig-ko@w3.org>, "CJK discussion (public-i18n-cjk@w3.org)" <public-i18n-cjk@w3.org>
Message-ID: <A592E245B36A8949BDB0A302B375FB4E0D3C3C806D@MAILR001.mail.lan>
Thank you so much to you all for the prompt relies. I went ahead and fixed:

http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-text/#default-stylesheet

Diff is here:
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/csswg/rev/ad4b388ea731


Regards,
Koji

-----Original Message-----
From: Koji Ishii [mailto:kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp] 
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:48 AM
To: HTML Korean Interest Group (public-html-ig-ko@w3.org); CJK discussion (public-i18n-cjk@w3.org)
Subject: Korean should default to word-break: keep-all or not?

Hello,

Can someone please help me to figure out an issue in CSS Text Level 3?

The current CSS Text Level 3 has informative appendix for the default UA stylesheet[1], which contains:

/* Korean prefers to break only at spaces */
:root:lang(ko) {
  word-break: keep-all;
}

The "word-break: keep-all"[2] disallows breaking between CJK characters and make line breaking rules just like English. Years ago I was told from my Korean colleague that Korean line breaking rules should be the same as English and CJ rules should not apply, so we put this. But Example 3 of UAX#14, 8.2 Examples of Customization[3] says:

> Depending on the nature of the document, Korean either uses implicit 
> breaking around characters Space-based layout is common in magazines 
> and other informal documents with ragged margins, while books, with 
> both margins justified, use the other type, as it affords more line 
> break opportunities and therefore leads to better justification.

If this behavior depends on documents, and most sites do not use "word-break: keep-all" today (as far as I observed quickly,) I guess it's probably wrong to put "word-break: keep-all" into the UA default stylesheet.

I proposed removal of this to the www-style[4], but could someone please confirm if my understanding is correct?

Thank you for your support in advance.

[1] http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-text/#default-stylesheet
[2] http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-text/#word-break
[3] http://unicode.org/reports/tr14/#Examples
[4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012May/0132.html

Regards,
Koji
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