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Re: "Mostly useless" doctype

From: T.J. Crowder <tj@crowdersoftware.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:52:40 +0000
Message-ID: <c95470a1003210652t1b802b0cy81a4f4abcb26be12@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Cc: public-html-comments <public-html-comments@w3.org>
Done, #9287 <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9287>

-- T.J.


On 21 March 2010 13:42, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:

>  With regard to your comment, I would like to encourage you to submit this
> item to the HTML WG via the W3C public Bugzilla system [1].
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> The HTML WG WGs Decision Policy Basic Process [2] is driven by the
> processing of Bugzilla entries so your comment is more likely to have an
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> If you are unable to do this for a good reason, then please let the WG
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> /paulc
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> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=HTML%20WG&component=HTML5+spec+bugs
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> [2] http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html#basic
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> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
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> *From:* public-html-comments-request@w3.org [mailto:
> public-html-comments-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *T.J. Crowder
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:01 AM
> *To:* public-html-comments
> *Subject:* "Mostly useless" doctype
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> In Section 8.1.1 <http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html#the-doctype>.,
> the current published specification says:
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> A DOCTYPE is a mostly useless, but required, header.
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> It then goes on to say:
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> DOCTYPEs are required for legacy reasons. When omitted, browsers tend to
> use a different rendering mode that is incompatible with some
> specifications.
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> So, not useless then, or even mostly useless, as it's required to ensure
> that the most common UAs in the world (web browsers) behave something close
> to properly.
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> Perhaps consider dropping the "mostly useless" comment to avoid encouraging
> skimmers to drop it. Perhaps "A DOCTYPE is a required header that primarily
> serves a legacy, but significant, purpose."
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> (Separately: It's a header? That seems an odd term for it.)
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> Regards,
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> T.J. Crowder
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> tj @ crowdersoftware / com
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> www / crowder software / com
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