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RE: "Mostly useless" doctype

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:42:04 +0000
To: "T.J. Crowder" <tj@crowdersoftware.com>
CC: public-html-comments <public-html-comments@w3.org>
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With regard to your comment, I would like to encourage you to submit this item to the HTML WG via the W3C public Bugzilla system [1].

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From: public-html-comments-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-comments-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of T.J. Crowder
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:01 AM
To: public-html-comments
Subject: "Mostly useless" doctype

In Section 8.1.1<http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html#the-doctype>., the current published specification says:

A DOCTYPE is a mostly useless, but required, header.

It then goes on to say:

DOCTYPEs are required for legacy reasons. When omitted, browsers tend to use a different rendering mode that is incompatible with some specifications.

So, not useless then, or even mostly useless, as it's required to ensure that the most common UAs in the world (web browsers) behave something close to properly.

Perhaps consider dropping the "mostly useless" comment to avoid encouraging skimmers to drop it. Perhaps "A DOCTYPE is a required header that primarily serves a legacy, but significant, purpose."

(Separately: It's a header? That seems an odd term for it.)

T.J. Crowder
tj @ crowdersoftware / com
www / crowder software / com
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