- From: Ron Reiter <ron.reiter@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:01:01 +0300
- To: Daniel Hendrycks <kondo8@hotmail.com>
- Cc: "public-html-comments@w3.org" <public-html-comments@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <AANLkTinqOM98hjjrZHXNoMqPc7T25zEJKTnJmndkm5qQ@mail.gmail.com>
The correct design would be to use a window-less application for desktop applications, which then spawn windows using standard javascript and DOM (window.open function). http://www.pageresource.com/jscript/jwinopen.htm <http://www.pageresource.com/jscript/jwinopen.htm>Attributes such as width, height, scrollbars, toolbars, status bar, menubar, etc can be set. Adding an attribute "fullscreen=yes" could enable you to open a fullscreen window easily, using the currently implemented javascript support. That way, you won't need to reconsider the implicatoins such a tag has. Adding to your proposition, I suggest doing the opposite (which will eventually lead to the correct design of your idea) and adding a seperate DOCTYPE tag attribute called a "windowless application". Examples: <!DOCTYPE WLHTML> <!DOCTYPE HTML windowless="true"> Since the DOCTYPE tag must be the first tag in an HTML document, browsers could open window-less applications without a window, and allow such web applications to use the standard javascript API to spawn windows. With the addition of a fullscreen tag, one could configure a desktop application to open a web application directly in fullscreen mode. This capability enables HTML5 to be more flexible than any browser based plugin in the world. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Daniel Hendrycks <kondo8@hotmail.com>wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:58:29 -0600, Ron Reiter <ron.reiter@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I do think there is room for proposing tags for desktop applications > > I am proposing this for HTML5, which is rendered by desktop applications. I > cannot really understand what you are saying, if you don't want HTML5 to > interact with the device, then that is quite contrary to things that are in > drafts for HTML5. Today, HTML Media Capture went in a draft phase, that > interacts with the device; that could be a security concern, too (you > mentioned security as an issue for the tag, earlier). > http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-html-media-capture-20100720/ > > "This puts HTML in direct competition with other technologies intended for > applications deployed over the Web, in particular Flash and Silverlight." > -Ian Hickson > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jan/0215.html > > As you can see, HTML5 is in competition with plug-ins, plug-ins can go in > fullscreen. YouTube said HTML is not ready for YouTube, one of the reasons > stated was: "HD video begs to be watched in full screen, but that has not > historically been possible with pure HTML." > > There is a need for Fullscreen, I believe the syntax I gave is simple > enough to make it possible. > > -- > Daniel Hendrycks <http://my.opera.com/DanielHendrycks/> > -- -- Ron
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