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Re: Silently deprecating XHTML

From: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:17:12 +0100
To: "Frank Ellermann" <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com>
Cc: public-html-comments@w3.org
Message-ID: <op.t5m5uylu64w2qv@annevk-t60.oslo.opera.com>

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:52:16 +0100, Frank Ellermann  
<hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anne van Kesteren wrote:
>> Then use XHTML5 with the proper media type.
> Not "visible with any browser" => showstopper.

Fair enough.

>> XHTML 1.x as text/html didn't have this feature either.
> Of course it has, I use XHTML validators to find bugs,
> not browsers desperately trying to display something.

The work in progress HTML5 validator has a feature that allows you to  
override the MIME type and therefore to validate as XHTML5 as Simon  
pointed out.

>> Netscape 3 is sort of irrelevant at this point.
> It could also affect 4.x (for those poor confused
> folks thinking that 4.x was "better" than 3.x ;-), at
> some point in time <br /> and friends were important
> enough to be mentioned in the notorious "appendix C".

That was because HTML 4 was based on SGML where <br /> meant something  
completely different.

> Clearly HTML5 has better things to do than to worry
> about such historical issues, but just allowing <br/>
> "also" in HTML when it never really worked in XHTML 1
> is a rather odd move.  Why can't they simply use <br>
> in HTML 1+, visible with any browser ?

Due to a lot of people advocating usage of <br/> / <br /> in text/html  
content it is more cost-effective to simply allow it -- given that it  
works interoperably in "current" browsers -- than to try to change the  
mindset of all those authors.

Anne van Kesteren
Received on Monday, 28 January 2008 13:14:14 UTC

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