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[Bug 9898] The Decision Policy (as applied) is ineffective at getting closure on ISSUEs

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--- Comment #15 from Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>  2010-06-14 16:00:10 ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> 
> Over-relying on tone or word use doesn't encompass acts that, when taken
> separately are innocuous, but when combined are based more on a response
> against an individual rather than an idea. People can be polite but still act
> counter to what's best for the HTML5 spec, and for all web communities.
> Politeness in word is nothing if its not matched by openness in action. 
> 
> I would rather those who wanted to universally keep elements had argued each,
> individually. I believed then, and continue to believe now, that the arguments
> presented against my change proposals were weak, and based on politics rather
> than technology. In fact, there were few technical objections and many
> political -- based on emails and philosophical assertions rather than anything
> quantifiable. 
> 
> However, where the co-chairs failed, and badly, is by tolerating disrespect for
> the change proposal process by allowing a grouped response--even though the
> change proposals were about individual items. 

The Chairs initially asked you to submit change proposals for your issues
staggered, instead of all at once. You insisted on submitting them all at once.
Therefore, we took steps to prevent this from overburdening the group. The
resulting Change Proposal did in fact individually address all six issues.

In any case, you have made this point before. I don't think repeating it at
every opportunity is helpful.

> It is the co-chair response and behavior that actually opens this item up for
> formal objection, because the chairs did not follow their own established
> change proposal process. 

If you'd like to raise a Formal Objection against any of the decisions, go
ahead. I don't think this bug is the appropriate place to comment on your
possible intent to do so.

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