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[Bug 7806] atom ID element generation for feed entries

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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:15:13 +0000
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Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|WORKSFORME                  |

--- Comment #7 from Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>  2009-10-20 09:15:13 ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> > I still do not understand why it says "undereferencable". Is this a normative
> > requirement?
> Yes.
> > If so, for what reason?
> Because if you gave a ereferencable URL, people might be tempted to dereference
> it, which would be bad, since it wouldn't point at the article in question.

It's not HTML5's job to dictate this. RFC 4287 already is sufficiently clear
about this:

"Its content MUST be an IRI, as defined by [RFC3987]. Note that the definition
of "IRI" excludes relative references. Though the IRI might use a
dereferencable scheme, Atom Processors MUST NOT assume it can be dereferenced."
-- http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc4287.html#rfc.section.4.2.6

> > "The same <span>absolute URL</span> should be
> > generated for each run of this algorithm when given the same
> > input."
> > 
> > I think this should be a "must".
> Certain UAs won't be able to guarantee that, e.g. because they store no state
> and thus use a hash of the page and the page changes slightly each time the
> page is loaded.

In which case they must not generate the ID.

"When an Atom Document is relocated, migrated, syndicated, republished,
exported, or imported, the content of its atom:id element MUST NOT change. Put
another way, an atom:id element pertains to all instantiations of a particular
Atom entry or feed; revisions retain the same content in their atom:id
elements. It is suggested that the atom:id element be stored along with the
associated resource."

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