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RE: request a heartbeat publication of HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives

From: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:23:41 -0700
To: "'Steve Faulkner'" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "'Grant Simpson'" <glsimpso@gmail.com>, <public-html-admin@w3.org>
Message-ID: <059301cfe4d0$787137d0$6953a770$@ca>
It seems that there are already multiple versions of this document located in numerous locations (which I find far more troubling than a date-stamped heart-beat status):

 

http://w3c.github.io/alt-techniques/

http://www.w3.org/TR/html/embedded-content-0.html#alt

http://dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/

 

Google also turns up this W3C branded document: http://files.paciellogroup.com/blogmisc/HTML5/textalternatives.html 

 

That is, by my count, 4 unique instances of what purports to be essentially the same document, or a version there-of.

 

If having a definitive heart-beat document, complete with time-stamp [sic] is that important to others, will we also seek at this time to streamline this cacophony of different documents at different URLs? Otherwise it strikes me as a bit of an exercise in futility.

 

 

As for timing… I am unclear why we have to do this NOW, right away, this week! We are waiting on a decision from the Director on @longdesc, and depending on that outcome, we may need to have some significant editorial changes added to that document. We've come along this far, and this long, with the document at the current status with no harm (Steve has already said he has not made any changes in months), so I am unclear on the sense of immediate urgency. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see this finished up too, but what's the rush? Can we let the Director make his decision, and then we can set a publish date based upon that decision?

 

JF

 

 

From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:43 AM
To: Grant Simpson; public-html-admin@w3.org
Subject: Re: request a heartbeat publication of HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives

 

It would be extremely helpful to have a heartbeat draft. In my class, I integrate accessible techniques throughout the curriculum and when it comes to discussing text alternatives in HTML, I have been at a bit of a loss as to how to explain the current state of the art.

 

Note the latest version of the document is available here: http://w3c.github.io/alt-techniques/

Also if you want a stable draft link, the bulk of the material is also available in the HTML5 PR spec http://www.w3.org/TR/html/embedded-content-0.html#alt




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Regards

SteveF

HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/> 

 

On 10 October 2014 16:38, Grant Simpson <glsimpso@gmail.com> wrote:

It would be extremely helpful to have a heartbeat draft. In my class, I integrate accessible techniques throughout the curriculum and when it comes to discussing text alternatives in HTML, I have been at a bit of a loss as to how to explain the current state of the art.

TL;DR: +1.


On Oct 10, 2014, at 11:31, Gez Lemon <glemon@paciellogroup.com> wrote:

> +1
>
> Regards,
>
> Gez
>
> On 10 October 2014 13:01, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Chairs.
>>
>> In regards to:
>> HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives
>> http://w3c.github.io/alt-techniques/
>>
>> As It is unclear when  the document will be published as a note and what
>> direction the planned changes will take I consider it a reasonable request
>> that  a heartbeat draft be published by the HTML WG  before the new
>> editor(s) start work on the document. In its current form the document
>> accurately reflects the related advice on provision of text alternatives
>> contained in the HTML5 PR specification [1]. The current HTML5: Techniques
>> for providing useful text alternatives WD
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html-alt-techniques/ is 2 years old and is largely
>> obsolete. I consider it an important of the review process to be able to
>> have a stable up to date snapshot of the document in its current form
>> available for myself and others who intend to contribute feedback as the
>> document changes.
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html/embedded-content-0.html#alt
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> SteveF
>> HTML 5.1
>
>
>
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> Senior Accessibility Consultant - TPG
> http://www.paciellogroup.com
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