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RE: CfC: Approve overview of testing in view of permissive CR exit criteria

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:48:21 +0000
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
CC: "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, "Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net)" <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "HTML Accessibility Task Force" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
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Thanks Steve.

> img<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/embedded-content-0.html#the-img-element> element whose alt<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/embedded-content-0.html#attr-img-alt> attribute's value is empty presentation role

Could you help me understand the above text fragment?

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
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From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:33 AM
To: Paul Cotton
Cc: public-html-admin@w3.org; Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net); HTML Accessibility Task Force
Subject: Re: CfC: Approve overview of testing in view of permissive CR exit criteria

Hi paul,
here are some examples to support an objection:

some examples:
in the section
Implicit ARIA Semantics [1] and default ARIA semantics [2]  Strong Native Semantics

The h1-h6 elements are defined as requiring to have the aria- level property set to the element's outline depth<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/sections.html#outline-depth>
this is not the case in any browser.

The dialog<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/interactive-elements.html#the-dialog-element> element requires mapping to a dialog role this is not the case in any browser

img<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/embedded-content-0.html#the-img-element> element whose alt<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/embedded-content-0.html#attr-img-alt> attribute's value is empty presentation role

[1] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/dom.html#sec-implicit-aria-semantics
[2] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/dom.html#sec-strong-native-semantics

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Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>

On 26 June 2013 17:20, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>> wrote:
> When at least some of the implementation requirements in the sections are either not interoperably implemented or require verification

Please note that I believe this statement is not sufficient as an objection.  See:

> Objections of the form "features in 2.8.2.1 HTMLAllCollection are not currently interoperable" MUST be accompanied with specific evidence of non-interoperability, otherwise such objections will not be accepted by the Chairs.

Please provided "specific evidence of non-interoperability" for the two sections mentioned in your email.

/paulc
HTML WG co-chair

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596<tel:%28425%29%20705-9596> Fax: (425) 936-7329<tel:%28425%29%20936-7329>

From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com<mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:32 AM
To: Paul Cotton
Cc: public-html-admin@w3.org<mailto:public-html-admin@w3.org>; Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net<mailto:rubys@intertwingly.net>); HTML Accessibility Task Force

Subject: Re: CfC: Approve overview of testing in view of permissive CR exit criteria

Hi Paul, I note in the overview of testing doc[1] that the following sections are marked as Considered interoperable

  1.  3.2.7.3 Strong Native Semantics
  2.  3.2.7.4 Implicit ARIA Semantics
When at least some of the implementation requirements in the sections are either not interoperably implemented or require verification




[1] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tests-cr-exit.html

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Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>

On 14 June 2013 02:56, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>> wrote:

This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to approve the parts of the following document that indicate which parts of the HTML5 specification can be considered interoperable as per the permissive CR exit criteria [1].  The items subject to this CfC are marked "Considered interoperable" and color coded in green in the document:

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tests-cr-exit.html



Silence will be taken to mean there is no objection, but positive responses are encouraged.   Objections should be made to specific entries in the document.  Objections of the form "features in 2.8.2.1 HTMLAllCollection are not currently interoperable" MUST be accompanied with specific evidence of non-interoperability, otherwise such objections will not be accepted by the Chairs.



If there are no objections by Monday July 15, this resolution will carry.



/paulc

HTML WG co-chair



[1] http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/public-permissive-exit-criteria.html

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
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Tel: (425) 705-9596<tel:%28425%29%20705-9596> Fax: (425) 936-7329<tel:%28425%29%20936-7329>
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