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Re: Action Item Table summary action item HTML5

From: Mark Sadecki <mark@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:03:50 -0400
Message-ID: <53616536.6050102@w3.org>
To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, lwatson@paciellogroup.com, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
On 4/24/14, 12:37 PM, David MacDonald wrote:
> I've reviewed my results of testing:
> 
> http://davidmacd.com/test/details.html
> 
> The existing examples are spotty but NVDA is working OK using describedby in
> Chrome and FF .
> 
> On the call I suggested using a straight paragraph above the table summarizing
> the table. That is essentially what example 1 is (with the addition of
> describedby). Since leaving the describedby doesn't break anything, and works in
> some AT, let's leave that as a core technique... I expect Freedom Scientific
> will come on board, eventually.
I agree.
> 
> The same for the other examples using "figure". They don't work when the table
> gets focus, but they are no worse than using a paragraph before the table. They
> don't break anything. So my proposed changes to the spec are:
I agree with this also.
> 
> 1) Remove example 3 if "Details" is pulled from the spec.
A new Heartbeat was published yesterday and example 3 was removed from the spec.
> 2) Amend the text in the last example
> 
> ===current text===
> The best option, of course, rather than writing a description explaining the way
> the table is laid out, is to adjust the table such that no explanation is needed.
> 
> ===suggested text===
> It would be best to rearrange the table so the row headers are in the first
> column and the column headers are in the first row as in the following example,
> and to ensure the table headers are give <th>.  For simple data tables that
> don't have merged headings or multiply layers of headings, this would usually
> eliminate the need for for a table summary. 
I'm not sure this is actually necessary as the paragraph that follows already
says this.

http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/CR-html5-20140429/tabular-data.html#table-descriptions-techniques
 (see Code Example that follows the text you suggest replacing)

With the text as it stands in the current Heartbeat draft, I see no need for any
change to this section of the spec.

Does everyone agree?

Best,

Mark
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