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Re: 48-Hour Consensus Call: InstateLongdesc CP Update

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:11:41 +0100
Message-Id: <3EDE48EB-A194-4124-941E-20B632E8B1D1@gmail.com>
Cc: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>, Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
To: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
Note: the sampling was not random it was an intentional sampling of the top 10,000 web site home pages.

There is some leakage of internal pages from such web sites.

I am not and have not claimed any level of appropriateness of the sampling I have just made some new data available

As I said draw your own conclusions

Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Sep 2012, at 11:11, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Joshue O Connor
> <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie> wrote:
>>> I did not have time too look through it, but those I looked at either
>>> contained only a "#" or they contained (another) image file. With
>>> regard to the first (#) then I agree "misinformed" about the potential
>>> negative effect. With regard to image URLs inside @longdesc, then there
>>> are image light box solutions - libraries - that  more or less
>>> consciously makes incorrect use of longdesc. (Today they would perhaps
>>> picked at @data-foo attribute instead - but that was not 'valid' then.)
>>> Of the few I scanned, no one contained text.
>> 
>> 
>> Yikes, maybe it is the former Silvia. Thanks for doing that Leif. It does
>> therefore sound like an inappropriate sample population or at least
>> partially so.
> 
> How does the reason why longdesc was misused make it in an
> inappropriate sample population for client software developers trying
> to make a decision about whether to expose longdesc via UI to their
> users?
> 
> (My problem with these approaches to sampling is that randomly
> sampling the web corpus doesn't match the pattern of usage by typical
> users, it just tells you about long tail effects, so the relationship
> with user impact is unclear.)
> 
> --
> Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
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