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[Bug 18744] drop WAI-ARIA scope restriction in the text adopted in ISSUE-204

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:48:36 +0000
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18744

--- Comment #23 from Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> 2012-09-10 16:48:36 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #22)
> 
> In an earlier series of emails, I attempted to press Maciej to better explain
> how a sighted user, using a screen reading technology would be able to see this
> hidden content that was being read aloud.  Ultimately, he punted, wanting to
> have a telephone conversation with me (I accepted the offer, but my phone sits
> silent) - the only other response I got was that with VoiceOver activated, then
> the sighted user would also see the hidden content via what I understand to be
> some form of modal overlay.

John, I think that is dishonest bordering on slanderous. Here is the email
where I offered a phone conversation if there were further repetitions of the
same questions:
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Aug/0169.html>

Here's the email where you noted that, and said that you preferred to have
further public discussion, this is your last email in our exchange:
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Aug/0185.html>

Here is the email where I answered your new round of questions:
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Aug/0186.html>

You *never replied* to this final email, at which point I reasonably assumed
the point was sufficiently explained. To claim I "punted" is not a fair
characterization of the record. Rather, you stopped participating after I
answered your last round of questions.

Incidentally, the email you never replied to explains pretty clearly some
possible answers to your question, namely how a hidden description could be
presented to a sighted or partially sighted user. I believe the latest proposed
text in comment #9 also addresses your seeming concern that such text might be
presented to a user who did not explicitly access a description:
<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18744#c9>. That new text also
avoids using aria-describedby as an example and explicitly defers to ARIA on
that.

I'm still happy to provide further explanation by phone.

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