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From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:13:24 +1100
Message-ID: <CAHp8n2=3mY3cXJ4FTM6TtQtJCqjP8c4DrCsze+oQOccg2ir86g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>, public-html-a11y@w3.org
I'd prefer if it was all in the same location/area - I might be able
to attend if it is. I certainly can't travel both the Europe and the
US West Coast.
Silvia.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Steve Faulkner
<faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>>issue-193: remove CSS example (Steve)
>
> i submitted a proposal last week
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/outlinenone
>
> Re: a11y taskforce F2F
> ms: there's a proposal to have meetings between WebApps and HTML in Silicon
> Valley 10 - 13 April 2012
>
> this would not be possible for me to attend
> I would like to suggest that an a11y taskforce face to face be located in
> europe.
>
>
> regards
> stevef
>
>
> On 10 February 2012 04:01, Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>> Minutes of the 9 February HTML Accessibility Task Force meeting are posted
>> to http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-html-a11y-minutes.html and copied below.
>>
>> HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
>>
>> 09 Feb 2012
>>
>> Agenda
>>
>> See also: IRC log
>>
>> Attendees
>>
>> Present Cooper, Janina_Sajka, John_Foliot, Rich, Mike, paulc,
>> Cynthia_Shelly Regrets Steve_Faulkner, Laura_Carlson Chair Mike_Smith Scribe
>> MichaelC, MikeSmith
>>
>> Contents
>>
>> Topics
>>
>> When to file change proposals?
>> Reminder of the Deadline for reopen requests based on New Information
>> Meta name generator
>> issue-192: title attribute (Steve)
>> issue-193: remove CSS example (Steve)
>> issue-194: media transcript (John)
>> issue-199: ARIA-attribute processing requirements (MichaelC)
>> issue-201: canvas fallback (Frank)
>> issue-202: figcaption word-count (Judy)
>> issue-131 caret selection notification
>> April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps
>> Text alternatives
>>
>> Summary of Action Items
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> <trackbot> Date: 09 February 2012
>>
>> <MikeSmith>
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0063.html
>>
>> <MichaelC> agenda:
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0040.html
>>
>> <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
>>
>> When to file change proposals?
>>
>> <paulc> Paul indicated that anyone with a change proposal they are working
>> on should definitely file what they by the on time date.
>>
>> <paulc> There note should if possible indicate if there are any areas they
>> plan to continue to work on so that other WG member know if the CP is
>> complete or not.
>>
>> <paulc> The Chairs are especially willing to see CPs evovle in the face of
>> input and/or discussion on the email list.
>>
>> Reminder of the Deadline for reopen requests based on New Information
>>
>> <MikeSmith>
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Feb/0063.html
>>
>> ms: important to be aware of the deadlines in the above mail
>>
>> Meta name generator
>>
>> js: TF approved Steve's change proposal
>>
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposal/meta_name=generator_does_not_make_missing_alt_conforming
>>
>> Leif has put out another one
>>
>> ms: note some of the reopen requests need to be refined further
>>
>> <scribe can't find pointer to Leif's CP>
>>
>> there will be a preliminary review for well formedness of CPs
>>
>> need to be prepared to respond quickly to issues raised
>>
>> issue-192: title attribute (Steve)
>>
>> -> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/notitlev2 Updated title
>> attribute CP from Steve
>>
>> <note this is tagged to HTML-ISSUE-80, not HTML-ISSUE-192>
>>
>> <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/notitle_reality
>>
>> js: this is a reconsideration request for HTML-ISSUE-80
>>
>> ms: finding above CP as well
>>
>> mc: think this is and OBE version but it's unclear
>>
>> ms: think Steve is on top of pushing the CP to the HTML WG
>>
>> js: important so will ping
>>
>> js; has been reviewed by text sub-team, just editorial edits now
>>
>> issue-193: remove CSS example (Steve)
>>
>> ms: no CP available?
>>
>> js: on Steve's plate, don't recall due date
>>
>> issue was that markup in example was not a11y friendly
>>
>> ms: so naive user might get misled even though it's informative
>>
>> <MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html
>>
>> due 15 February 2012
>>
>> issue-194: media transcript (John)
>>
>> jf: there are two methods to pursue
>>
>> <scribe missed details>
>>
>> not sure whether to submit one, both as alternatives, what
>>
>> js: both would work and we don't have preference between them, right?
>>
>> jf: right, we need programmatic link to transcripts
>>
>> can be done with @kind or with a new attribute
>>
>> <scribe> new attribute might have more resistance
>>
>> ms: discussed in media sub-team?
>>
>> js: not recently
>>
>> there has been pushback on new values for @kind
>>
>> ms: should get others to support an approach and contribute to the CP
>>
>> issue-199: ARIA-attribute processing requirements (MichaelC)
>>
>> <MikeSmith> scribe: MikeSmith
>>
>> <MichaelC> ARIA processing CP
>>
>> MichaelC: view is that this CP is to clarify how to do lexical processing
>> of ARIA in HTML
>> ... it copies info from elsewhre
>> ... says what the syntax of the value of the role attribute is
>> ... and some additional conformance requirements, then how to process it
>> ... similiarly, for state and property attributes
>> ... So I believe that should clarify the lexical processing requirements
>> for ARIA
>>
>> <scribe> scribe: MichaelC
>>
>> issue-201: canvas fallback (Frank)
>>
>> rs: expect Frank to have a CP by this weekend
>>
>> <richardschwerdtfe> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Canvas_hit_testing
>>
>> due 16 Feb
>>
>> ms: also need to move that to the HTML wiki
>>
>> issue-202: figcaption word-count (Judy)
>>
>> js: believe Judy still hopes to get this in
>>
>> it's a nice-to-have, not essential
>>
>> so if it's not in, we'll be ok
>>
>> ms: would be nice to get it done so it's not hanging
>>
>> <richardschwerdtfe>
>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline
>>
>> issue-131 caret selection notification
>>
>> <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline>
>>
>> <richardschwerdtfe>
>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/CaretSelectionRevised
>>
>> rs: these are two canvas proposals
>>
>> not alternatives, they work together to solve the problems
>>
>> also think current state for focus ring isn't satisfactory yet
>>
>> item 24 = April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps
>>
>> April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps
>>
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0057.html
>>
>> ms: there's a proposal to have meetings between WebApps and HTML in
>> Silicon Valley 10 - 13 April 2012
>>
>> question is whether this TF should meet then also
>>
>> <MikeSmith>
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2012JanMar/thread.html#msg549
>>
>> TF could meet on Monday 9 April, Saturday 14 April, or overlap with
>> WebApps on 10 - 11 April
>>
>> mc: can poll for a) support a FtF this year, b) support joining this batch
>> of meetings, c) specific dates in that week preferred?
>>
>> js: want to know about agenda
>>
>> mc: picks up on some TPAC discussion about Web performance
>>
>> also some API work, that's not currently in HTML but affects it
>>
>> pc: HTML also needs to start thinking of what's next in HTML
>>
>> <MikeSmith> related to HTML.next - http://www.w3.org/html/wg/next/markup/
>>
>> js: makes sense for these meetings to take place
>>
>> <MikeSmith> stuff that will be going into WebApps charter -
>> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/CharterChanges#Additions_Agreed
>>
>> pc: FtF at last TPAC was considered valuable
>>
>> would run the HTML portion of this un-conference style
>>
>> js: PF would be interested in this stuff anyways
>>
>> value in TF joining in the forwards thinking
>>
>> pc: also in poll should point out nearby religious holidays
>>
>> Text alternatives
>>
>> mc: have a change proposal that functions as part of a reopen request for
>> HTML-ISSUE-31, but don't feel confident in it
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/Text_Alternatives_Ownership
>>
>> js: Steve is working on another aspect that is more important
>>
>> need to decide what to do with these in the next day and half
>>
>> <scribe> meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force
>>
>> Summary of Action Items
>>
>> [End of minutes]
>> ________________________________
>> Minutes formatted by David Booth's scribe.perl version 1.136 (CVS log)
>> $Date: 2012/02/09 17:07:15 $
>> ________________________________
>>
>> --
>>
>> Michael Cooper
>> Web Accessibility Specialist
>> World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative
>> E-mail cooper@w3.org
>> Information Page
>
>
>
>
> --
> with regards
>
> Steve Faulkner
> Technical Director - TPG
>
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