Re: Bug 10873 for TF discussion

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:27:24 +0400, Steve Faulkner  
<faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> thanks Leonie,
> chair hat off.
(After apologising for not adding this to the last meeting agenda,)  
likewise.

> I suggest this would be a new feature request and would be best handled  
> by soemone stepping up and writing and providing uses cases, working  
> with >implementers to generate some interest and feedback, then writing  
> an extension spec...
(to help people with context, it is a request for a tooltip feature)

Personally I find Ian's arguments make a sound case that a new attribute  
isn't an improvement on title. There are obvious user agent  
implementations of title that are not as good as they should be (e.g. I  
had to use an extension to hack in keyboard access to titles in Opera -  
but it's really a couple of lines of CSS) but I don't think adding an  
attribute will do anything to improve them - the work should be done in  
the browsers themselves anyway, so why not just tell them what is wrong at  
the moment?

If there were an element, it could be used to provide more data of all  
kinds, as noted in the bug (e.g. marked up content, or  
internationalisation), but that seems like a lot of work (for example, how  
do you apply it to an img element in parsing) and I am not sure that the  
use cases justify it.

My inclination for now is to drop it, unless someone wants to write up an  
extension spec and propose it...

cheers

> On 19 December 2012 15:22, Léonie Watson <tink@tink.co.uk> wrote:
Would appreciate time during the TF telecon to discuss bug 10873:
>>
>> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10873
>>
>> One possibility is that we re-open the bug, assign it to a TF member  
>> and defer it to HTML.Next. The alternative is that we close the bug.  
>> Mixed feelings amongst the >>bug triage team, hence it would be good to  
>> get TF input. Thanks.

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