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RE: 48-Hour Consensus Call: ARIA-DescribedAT & Longdesc

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:03:27 +0200
To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Cc: 'Laura Carlson' <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, 'Janina Sajka' <janina@rednote.net>, 'HTML Accessibility Task Force' <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20120402170327794845.05bda30e@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Yes. And with a period before it. (Now, there is a comma.)

Leif

David MacDonald, Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:42:14 -0400:
> Hi Leif
> 
> Do you mean begin the 2nd sentence with  "the HTML Accessibility TF..."?
> 
> Cheers
> David MacDonald
> 
> CanAdapt Solutions Inc.
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leif Halvard Silli [mailto:xn--mlform-iua@målform.no] 
> Sent: April-02-12 8:16 AM
> To: Laura Carlson; Janina Sajka
> Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force
> Subject: Re: 48-Hour Consensus Call: ARIA-DescribedAT & Longdesc
> 
> Laura, would it help if the statement was turned into two sentences, where
> the second sentence began "The ARIA TF" instead of "and therefore"?
> 
> Please note:
> 
> * First half - until the comma - answers a question from
>   the chairs. It would be unacceptable to not answer them.
> * Even if we amended the statement (like I suggest or like
>   you suggest), the sentiment of many in the TF is
>   nevertheless best expressed in the current version, and
>   this is for sure also understood by the chairs.
> 
> Leif H Silli
> 
> Laura Carlson, Mon, 2 Apr 2012 06:21:02 -0500:
>> Hi Janina,
>> 
>> I object to the first half of this resolution for several reasons.
>> 
>> 1. Longdesc is a useful native HTML attribute in and of itself [1].
>> 
>> 2. The resolution is predicated upon ARIA. Linking aria-describedat to 
>> longdesc in this manner is uncalled for and counter-productive to 
>> reinstating longdesc.
>> 
>> 3. The PF working group is chartered to specify ARIA. The HTML 
>> Accessibility Task Force is not. The Accessibility TF is not 
>> authorized to confirm or deny ARIA timelines. If the HTML chairs 
>> desire a statement regarding PF's timeline that communication should 
>> come separately and directly from PF.
>> 
>> The task force longdesc resolution requires no reservations or 
>> dependencies. Please revise it to simply state:
>> 
>> RESOLUTION: The Accessibility Task Force reaffirms its support of 
>> Laura's authored CP to reinstate longdesc (Issue-30).
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Laura
>> 
>> [1] aria-describedat may be useful too. I wish Rich and Steve all the 
>> best on it.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
>>> Colleagues:
>>> 
>>> On 29 March last the HTML-A11Y Task Force teleconference meeting 
>>> reached consensus as follows:
>>> 
>>> RESOLUTION: The HTML-A11Y Task Force confirms that ARIA-DescribedAT 
>>> will not be ready for HTML 5 in HTML 5's currently published 
>>> timeframe, and therefore reaffirms its support of Laura's authored CP 
>>> to reinstate longdesc (Issue-30).
>>> 
>>> The TF resolution, together with minutes of the discussion leading up 
>>> to it, is logged at:
>>> http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03

>>> 
>>> As usual, if there is objection to this consensus position, please 
>>> respond by replying to this message no later than close of business, 
>>> Boston Time, on Monday 2 April.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
>>>                sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>>> 
>>> Chair, Open Accessibility       janina@a11y.org
>>> Linux Foundation                http://a11y.org

>>> 
>>> Chair, Protocols & Formats
>>> Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/wai/pf

>>> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>> --
>> Laura L. Carlson
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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