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RE: 48-Hour Consensus Call: ARIA-DescribedAT & Longdesc

From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:42:14 -0400
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To: "'Leif Halvard Silli'" <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, "'Laura Carlson'" <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, "'Janina Sajka'" <janina@rednote.net>
CC: "'HTML Accessibility Task Force'" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hi Leif

Do you mean begin the 2nd sentence with  "the HTML Accessibility TF..."?

Cheers
David MacDonald

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-----Original Message-----
From: Leif Halvard Silli [mailto:xn--mlform-iua@målform.no] 
Sent: April-02-12 8:16 AM
To: Laura Carlson; Janina Sajka
Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force
Subject: Re: 48-Hour Consensus Call: ARIA-DescribedAT & Longdesc

Laura, would it help if the statement was turned into two sentences, where
the second sentence began "The ARIA TF" instead of "and therefore"?

Please note:

* First half - until the comma - answers a question from
  the chairs. It would be unacceptable to not answer them.
* Even if we amended the statement (like I suggest or like
  you suggest), the sentiment of many in the TF is
  nevertheless best expressed in the current version, and
  this is for sure also understood by the chairs.

Leif H Silli

Laura Carlson, Mon, 2 Apr 2012 06:21:02 -0500:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> I object to the first half of this resolution for several reasons.
> 
> 1. Longdesc is a useful native HTML attribute in and of itself [1].
> 
> 2. The resolution is predicated upon ARIA. Linking aria-describedat to 
> longdesc in this manner is uncalled for and counter-productive to 
> reinstating longdesc.
> 
> 3. The PF working group is chartered to specify ARIA. The HTML 
> Accessibility Task Force is not. The Accessibility TF is not 
> authorized to confirm or deny ARIA timelines. If the HTML chairs 
> desire a statement regarding PF's timeline that communication should 
> come separately and directly from PF.
> 
> The task force longdesc resolution requires no reservations or 
> dependencies. Please revise it to simply state:
> 
> RESOLUTION: The Accessibility Task Force reaffirms its support of 
> Laura's authored CP to reinstate longdesc (Issue-30).
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Laura
> 
> [1] aria-describedat may be useful too. I wish Rich and Steve all the 
> best on it.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
>> Colleagues:
>> 
>> On 29 March last the HTML-A11Y Task Force teleconference meeting 
>> reached consensus as follows:
>> 
>> RESOLUTION: The HTML-A11Y Task Force confirms that ARIA-DescribedAT 
>> will not be ready for HTML 5 in HTML 5's currently published 
>> timeframe, and therefore reaffirms its support of Laura's authored CP 
>> to reinstate longdesc (Issue-30).
>> 
>> The TF resolution, together with minutes of the discussion leading up 
>> to it, is logged at:
>> http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03
>> 
>> As usual, if there is objection to this consensus position, please 
>> respond by replying to this message no later than close of business, 
>> Boston Time, on Monday 2 April.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
>>                sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>> 
>> Chair, Open Accessibility       janina@a11y.org
>> Linux Foundation                http://a11y.org
>> 
>> Chair, Protocols & Formats
>> Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
>> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
> --
> Laura L. Carlson
> 
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