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(unknown charset) Re: INVALID: "Please try to improve Bugzilla's accessibility/usability problems before Last Call"

From: (unknown charset) Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 15:58:37 +0200
To: (unknown charset) Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Cc: (unknown charset) HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
Message-ID: <20110520155837956713.91411f84@xn--mlform-iua.no>
The HTMLwg's telconference handles a - in my view - similar issue, 
namely 'ACTION-202: Reconcile W3C pubrules with editor's request to 
publish polyglot document in polyglot format'.
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/202

ACTION-202 is about getting permission to publish the polyglot spe as a 
polyglot document. This is currently considered not in tune with the 
W3C pubrules which, if I get them right, say that one should publish 
specs in an existing format rather than in the newly defined format. 
The W3C pubrules relates not only to the HTMLwg but to all working 
groups of the W3C - which is similar to how the bugzilla also relates 
to all working groups. As such, they are not especially the HTMLwg's 
responsibility, but the HTMLwg nevertheless are affected by them and is 
seeking to improve them.

So, perhaps it would be possible to make progress if we defined a 
proper 'ACTION' for this issue? I would suggest something like this: 
ACTION-999: Reconsile W3C's installation of bugzilla with working group 
members request to work with a bug tracker that fullfills the W3C's own 
standards w.r.t. to accessibility and otherwise'.

In this regard, I will note - or repeat - that bugzilla:

* publishes HTML4 Transitional bug reports
* that the pages its publishes contains no encoding information - 
something which causes problems - not least when the the report is 
published as e-mail. Then non-ascii or non-windows-1252 tend to be 
converted to questionmarks.

At least one HTMLwg member does, in Bug 10525, declare himsself as 
willing to help out, so it should be possible to, little by litle, 
improve things.

Leif H Silli

Laura Carlson, Fri, 20 May 2011 06:40:06 -0500:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As you may have noticed the Bug 10525 was resolved INVALID [1].
> 
> Does anyone know if installing the latest Bugzilla release would help?
> Gregory have you or has anyone tested if it ascertain if it would
> resoled any of the problems that you identified?
> 
> HTML5 is relying on Bugzilla as a major component in its decision
> process. I expect many people will be trying to use Bugzilla to raise
> bugs on HTML5 during Last Call and will encounter the same problems
> that Gregory encountered. It would be a shame if the Bugzilla
> interface  discourages HTML5 input and shuts some people out of the
> process.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Laura
> 
> On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 02:39 -0500, Laura Carlson wrote:
>> 3. INVALID BUG:
>> 
>> 3.1 Bug 10525: "Please try to improve Bugzilla's
>> accessibility/usability problems before Last Call" reported by Laura
>> Carlson.
>> Maciej's comment: "It is regrettable that bugzilla is lacking in some
>> aspects. However, resolving these issues seems out of scope for the
>> decision policy document. There is no component for tools in the W3C
>> bugzilla. I recommend reporting these issues to the W3C Team and/or
>> upstream to the bugzilla maintainers..."
>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10525
> 
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