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RE: ISSUE-122 shalott-example: Call for revisions

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:14:43 +0000
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> (janina@rednote.net)" <janina@rednote.net>, "Michael Cooper (cooper@w3.org)" <cooper@w3.org>
CC: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, "HTML Accessibility Task Force" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
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> both impying that there are only 2 what about  Change Proposal: Purely Decorative Images (Section 4.8.1.1.7)<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/purely_decorative_images> - by Gregory J. Rosmaita<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/User:Grosmai> ?

Does the A11Y TF have a preference between the following two change proposals:

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/purely_decorative_images
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/TextAlternativesIssue122

or do you simply want both proposals dealt with by the WG?

/paulc

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From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:18 AM
To: Maciej Stachowiak
Cc: HTML WG; Sam Ruby; Paul Cotton
Subject: Re: ISSUE-122 shalott-example: Call for revisions

Could i get an answer back from the chairs on the questions below prior to the february 14 cuttof date?

regards
stevef
On 8 February 2011 10:25, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com<mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Maciej,

you wrote:
"The Chairs have reviewed the proposals for ISSUE-122 shalott-example, and find them both wanting as written."
both impying that there are only 2 what about  Change Proposal: Purely Decorative Images (Section 4.8.1.1.7)<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/purely_decorative_images> - by Gregory J. Rosmaita<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/User:Grosmai> ?


anyway I have updated my change proposal
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/thematicimages#Details

can you tell me whether the udpate has chnaged the chairs view that it is "wanting as written" if not can you please exaplin what is wanting.

regards
stevef

On 7 February 2011 19:12, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com<mailto:mjs@apple.com>> wrote:

The Chairs have reviewed the proposals for ISSUE-122 shalott-example, and find them both wanting as written. If they are not updated within a week, by February 14, 2011, they will be dropped from consideration. If no proposals remain, the issue will be closed without prejudice.

* Steve's null Change Proposal does not apply a consistent resolution to all WG drafts, as previously mentioned by the chairs: <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/thematicimages>.

* Laura's proposal to remove text alternative examples goes considerably beyond the scope of the issue, in the judgment of the chairs <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/TextAlternativesIssue122>. The original scope of the issue was about the details of one particular example. This proposal removes all accessibility advice for textual equivalents, and in the course of doing so entirely deletes a WG draft. It is reasonable to propose this, but not as part of this narrow issue. We offer the following options:

  ** Revise the Change Proposal to fit the narrower scope of ISSUE-122 (just the one example that was at issue).

  ** File a bug requesting the changes in the proposal, and if necessary escalate it. It will then be treated as its own issue.

It's fine to do either or both of these things (or none if there is no desire to pursue the issue further).

Regards,
Maciej







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