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Re: [media] proposed a11y TF letter on issue-152

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:29:10 -0400
Message-ID: <4DB2C616.4040003@intertwingly.net>
To: Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>
CC: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, Eric Carlson <eric.carlson@apple.com>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org Task Force" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
On 04/22/2011 10:52 PM, Mark Watson wrote:
>
>>
>> The chairs are requesting an actual Change Proposal for anything that
>> people would like to have surveyed. More information in this post:
>>
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0533.html
>>
>
> Hi Sam,
>
> I would like express my disappointment that the proposal that was the
> unanimous consensus of the a11y Task Force as reported to the HTML WG
> list *early this-morning [1]* and on which I believe there remains
> consensus amongst the a11y Task Force members and probably most of the
> WG does not seem to be being considered further.

I will note that the request for change proposals went out 95 days 
ago[2], not yesterday.  It is important that everybody in the entire 
working group gets an opportunity to evaluate proposals and has enough 
time to produce alternate or counter proposals should they feel that 
such is necessary.

> For my part I had relatively few objectives in this activity and was
> very pleased to see the requirements that Netflix has accepted in
> multiple proposals and then in the a11y group agreement and as a result
> I did not create a Change Proposal of my own. Now it seems that was very
> much a mistake and if it was not for the timescale I would certainly
> feel obliged to prepare a Change Proposal with a solution which meets
> our requirements.

I encourage you to participate in one or more of the following bugs:

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12544
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12545
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12546
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12547
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12544

If any of those bugs are not resolved to your satisfaction, there will 
again be an opportunity to produce a change proposal.  Alternately, a 
change proposal is all that is required in order to cause issue 152 to 
be reopened.

Either way, this will be resolved in time for HTML5.

> I admit to being new to this process, but it seems strange that the
> proposal people worked so hard to agree, and that was agreed by everyone
> interested enough to attend the a11y group meetings, is apparently now
> not being considered as the resolution of this issue.

What you refer to as a proposal did not contain one or more of the 
following: rationale, a set of edit instructions specific enough that 
they can be applied without ambiguity, or impact.

> ...Mark
>
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0517.html
>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Silvia.
>>
>> - Sam Ruby

[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jan/0198.html
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