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Re: [media] issue-152: documents for further discussion

From: Philip Jägenstedt <philipj@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 13:10:07 +0200
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:37:45 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer  
<silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Philip Jägenstedt <philipj@opera.com>  
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 02:51:00 +0200, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
>>>> Since HTMLMediaElement.played seems almost useless I haven't  
>>>> implemented
>>>> it in Opera. I still have hopes that it will be removed from the spec,
>>>> but failing that let's not copy it around unless we have a good use  
>>>> case
>>>> for it.
>>> The use case Silvia suggests seems reasonable (marking on the timeline
>>> what has been played), why is it not good?
>> I've boycotted HTMLMediaElement.played by not implementing it and so far
>> I've never heard a single request for it. I've also never seen controls  
>> that
>> expose what has already been played, only what is currently buffered. I  
>> know
>> this has been discussed before, but I can't find it in the archives.  
>> Then
>> the use case was something like showing or not showing ads depending on  
>> what
>> had been watched, I think. IMO, in the absence of compelling use cases  
>> it
>> should be removed from both HTMLMediaElement and MediaController. One  
>> thing
>> speaking against that is that it's already implemented in WebKit, of  
>> course.
> Oh, the use case of ads is probably better. FAIK nobody has yet
> implemented a library of ad playing for HTML5 video, which may be why
> you haven't seen a request yet. From what I've heard, the online video
> platform providers are waiting for the ad platform providers to get
> there.

My position on this is that since it's easy to track what's been played  
with scripts and I since I haven't seen anything close to an "80% use  
case", I think that's exactly what should happen.

Philip Jägenstedt
Core Developer
Opera Software
Received on Wednesday, 20 April 2011 11:10:38 UTC

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